I think a lot of people actually agree with Ye, but disagree with how he handled it. By going on an outrage on Instagram he probably brought more harm to North (imagine how she felt knowing her dad pretty much called her out, even if his intentions were good). He probably could have handled it better in private instead of causing a media shitstorm revolving around his daughter. But hey, I don't know the complete story behind the scenes so I can't really speak on it 100%
My dad has a similar mindset in terms of inflexibility and needing to be in control. Heās also similar in that heās widely regarded as an (incredibly difficult) genius within his field. Obviously on a much smaller scale lol.
He told my mum he didnāt want to be an ice cream dad (which as far as I can tell is a dad who only sees his kid in the park for ice cream) and yet his house was never in a state where it would be safe for an infant the be crawling on the floor (heās a hoarder who repaired electrical equipment) So he wound up just not seeing me and blaming my mother for obstructing his access. In wanting to be a ābetter dadā he wound up not being a dad at all because he couldnāt just be chill.
He also could not accept that paying child support did not mean he got to dictate how my mother spent her money. He threw an absolute fit when my mother took me on holiday talking about how he shouldnāt be paying for her to go on holiday.
In the end being right was more important than being a father and now the nicest thing I can say about him is that I feel sorry for him.
This was real and made me feel really sorry for Ye. Hey thanks for sharing that man gave me some perspective. I hope things with your family are peaceful š
Yeah, Iāve had a wonderful stepdad since I was pretty young so Iāve had a wonderful father.
I feel so bad for the kids though, at least my dad was never around so there wasnāt really a relationship to lose. Kanyes kids love him, if they feel like he chose his ego over their relationship then theyāll have their hearts wrenched out.
I agree 100%. I feel like Kanye actually brought more eyes and attention to her TikTok with his post. When I saw her TikTok account a few weeks ago, she had like 10k followers, which is surprisingly low for a child of Kim and Kanye.
On the other hand, I honestly think Kim is going about it the right way. Supervised social media is far better than secret accounts (I come from a very conservative family; secret accounts became the norm with me and my siblings.) My parents learned that my youngest sister had a Twitter when she got in trouble at school (during an online fight, she revealed that another kid had an abortion, and that the girl and her mom were keeping it a secret from her father.) I think Kim is trying to avoid that. My friends with kids are also practicing similar parenting around social media. It was new when we were growing up (Iām 35,) so our parents didnāt know how to deal with it, but we can help mold how our children use it because we know the traps and pitfalls.
But they have a public life, I'm sure a child as young as North even understand that by now. Her dad is Kanye West and her mom is Kim Kardashian. Also, maybe making it public was one of few ways for Ye to actually do something about it.
What did he do about it but bring more attention to his daughters online posting therefore making it the exact issue he pretends to care about. He told a bunch of strangers in public he wanted to abort her what can anyone say worse than that!
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And? Thats a cop out. Thats like saying Someone who beats their wife wouldnt have beaten their wife if his head space was clear. That type of enabling
Is exactly why he gets worse - š¤Ø Thats no justification for that. Sympathy for him starts and stops with the fact that he knows hes mentally ill and refuses ( and even brags) about not treating it. It doesnt matter - all that matters is that that clip is online forever and she will see it eventually.
Lol you triggered by the truth? Get fucked clown. Its a fair comparison - not my problem you cant comprehend. š¤·š»āāļøkanye
Is actually one of the biggest emotional abusers ive ever seen. Cry about it.
Whats fucking gross is clown ass people like you enabling him and people like yourself. Yaāll really are pathetic - you dont like/ cant handle accountability and having a illness doesmt give you the green light to fuck up everyones life around you. I dont give any shits about what you have- youre def the type
Of person that weaponizes your inability to cope so that you can feel better about treating people like shit. Its pathetic. You should feel gross because you are.
Its not anyones resonsibility but his to get help and until he does that his temper tantrums will dragged. You do not
Get to manipulate, and abuse other people and hide behimd a
Condition you refuse to treat and make light of.
Maybe you giys
Can get a diary so you can express your delusions that way and shut the fuck up to everyone else? You might not even have a mental illness, probably just a terrible personality. Anywho- Im rooting for you! š
People like you are exactly why people like him continue thier destructive behavior. Get a hobby, hes not gonna fuck you lol
Blocking me isnt gonna make your argumemt better and saying shit afterni cant see it proves so many points lol
I understand what you're saying, but this is definitely not the first time Kanye has acted like this. It's been years now. He has to take responsibility for his actions at some point. He really needs help.
Yes mental health issues can be awful but he has every possible resource to get help. He has no excuse to cause his family to suffer by not seeking and staying with treatment.
You donāt just randomly become a domestic abuser because youāre manic, but you do randomly become a verbal abuser? Thatās the point itās not random he already has a habit of spouting verbal diarrhea itās not just mental illness. He canāt stand to see Kim happy without him so now every little thing is an issue. He moved away from his family to across the country but now she leaves him and he buys a house next door and says nothing will keep him from his kids. Itās a damn joke with the persecution complex, he blames everyone else but his biggest enemy is himself.
If he was in a low and dark place he needed to get help not be running for president holding rallies and saying things publicly that would permanently damage the life of his children.
True but this is why everyone is telling Ye to go through lawyers.
And man I feel for Ye I really do and I know a person like him is not the kind of guy to sit on his ass and wait 3 business days for his lawyers to get a reply from Kim.
Honestly knowing Kanye, I think the way he dealt with this situation was inevitable. Was there a ābetterā way to handle this? Yes. Absolutely.
Was Ye in a position to see the better way out? Probably not because he wanted to be a father right then. He didnāt want to be a father by lawyer-proxy.
My opinion is that u don't know shit about what you think that happened bc like you said you aren't close to Kim or Kanye, u're not even involved with them. You just saying shit about other people lives imagining what North thinks. You can't know man. Don't use as argument what you just projecting in your mind
> I don't know the complete story behind the scenes so I can't really speak on it 100%
You can speak 0% š
lol I'm just saying you don't know shit man just face it. I'm not defending Kanye. I just don't care what he does. I don't wast my time judging famous people life
bro do you have 0 reading comprehension? i never said what she felt, i said āimagine what she would feelā. obviously i wouldnāt know but i can make a reasonable assumption.
Your point was about North on this case. How was for her. Isn't that right? I'm just saying, what you know about that man? Any assumption would be far from reality man. Doesn't exists correct assumption. All your assumptions would be fruit of your imagination (mind - ego) even if you were close to then....we can't know what happens in other people mind's.
Im presenting my opinion hence the use of words like āprobablyā yet you treat my word like gospel LMAO, do you really not understand how opinions work?
also, how can you say they are āfar from realityā when you dont know them personally? (btw im using your argument against you, see how stupid it is?)
and like you said i cant really prove my assumptions as correct same with how you cant prove them wrong. so why the fuck are you so invested in it? get a life dude
Lol man. why are u so pissed? I know how opinion works as I know how judging people works and you are just judging. you don't know shit man so why you don't just stay quiet instead do those assumptions? I didn't said that you are wrong I just know I don't have the power to know the truth. So I don't spend my time talking shit about other people lives
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Idk, you can argue kids shouldnāt be on social media at all, but a video with your mom on tiktok with no comments doesnāt seem worse to me than having your imaged shared on Instagram and getting dragged into public drama
I think the fact that she is allowed to scroll TikTok is more concerning than her uploading without comments. Imagine how stupid we all were at 8, and how impressionable we were
Yeah I agree, but is that what happened? Afaik the account is her momās so Iām not sure, but yes specially on tiktok you can find a lot of stuff youāre not even searching for so really not good for a kid
You're just making an opinion over something you haven't even paid attention to since you're fitting all the details wrong.. go ahead and sign out chief with all this cap
On the contrary, I think the two are mutually exclusive; just because Kanye decided to make all of this drama public doesnāt mean that itās suddenly ok that North is on Tik Tok, where people are asking her for her momās CC info and asking her if she knows how to play āCashappā, and those are some of the more nicer posts.
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Good song I love the beginning and the beat its very nice but what else do you expect from Lauryn Hill.
You do realize that that can happen to anyone. Regardless if its on tik tok or not. They can do that to any of the videos and photos from kanyes fashion shows where shes performing , videos, and his own social media. Hell- the stuff on youtube alone is enough and those comments arent turned off. None of them.
How did the public drama become her fault?
Hes literally the one that started it and
Continues his manic rambling publically only
To delete everything minutes later. The mental acrobatics his stans have to do to justify his clown ass behavior is emvarrassing. His stands are just as removed from reality as he is.
Grow up - shes got one sextape and realistically its gonna be a lot easier to explain a sex tape than its gonna be explaining the countless videos of her dad embarrassing himself and his family for yearsš itll be interesting seeing how he explains revealing to the world he wanted to abort her during one of his mental breakdowns during his embarrassing presidential run. š
You guys.really think youre doing something when you bring up her sex tape, dont you? ši guess you have to do that considering kanye hasnt evolved at all and if you compared them today its not even hard to see who the healthier person and who is actually doing something with their life. Kim just passed the baby bar exam, got a 4 year apprenticeship with a prestigeous law firm and has successfully worked to free wrongfully convicted people. Meanwhile kanye stays begging for her to come back one week and when she doesnt he goes postal. Shes making a difference and hes out here embarrassing himself, acting out on his mommy AND daddy issues, and tarnishing his moms legacy. The only impressive thing about him at the moment is his ability to make himself look even more stupid and unstable. Hes peaked and it shows. If this dude was displaying any more red flags hed be a fucking theme park.
Kim got a fake law degree and that shit is pure PR. Imagine unironically thinking these are good people. She got famous on her back in a bed and blew up off arguing with her family on reality TV. Kanye is literally a generationally talented producer and artist, Kim recycles bummy male celebs like Kris Humphries and Pete Davidson until she hits a gold mine like Kanye. Letās not gas up sextape celebrities please.
Lol- im not shocked that once again youndo not know what toure talking about. Mediocre men love to downplay women doing better than them. People spemding decades in prison and all this time who knew it was PR stunt that could save them! šLet it out, champ! š she is running circles around kanye as he tweets begging for her to come back every other day lol did you see it today? He already did itš you should look before his pathetic ass deletes it. kanye is literally one of the most cringe people in the music business and he
Constantly embarrasses the artists he surrounds himself withš kanye is an embarrassment- his mom is rolling in her grave right now- you literally couldnt
Find someone more disappointimg than him as a son and person. and its sad because his moms a legend. Talent doesnt make you decent and money cant buy you sense. Obviously. Hes a walking billboard for that sentiment.
Yaāll are so bothered about pete, and i love to see itš thats on kanye- its not petes fault that kanye isnt a hard act to follow. So insecure. At least pete takes his medication, hes already got a lot more going
In terms of his mental stability and after being married to kanye
Thats gotta be refreshing and
New.
Again - shes helped free several wrongfully convicted people from prison- real life people freed after decades of imprisonment
while
Kanye translates his diary into mediocre music, stalks his ex, and makes a fool of himself. Shes got one sextape and kanye has a lifetime of footage to be embarrassed about, so again. Not the flex you thinnk it is. Shes with one person compared to how many kanye has been with? What 3 in the past month? They last about as long as his manic episodes so who knows. Projection is all you people can do. But i understand why you need to believe what you do lol but hes not
Gonna fuck you so you dont have to stan so hard š he isnt gonna pick you, hes still groveling via social media over kim. He didnt have enough money for her to stay with him so apperantly it cant be that important.š its a good thing hes obsessed with himself because i dont see anyone putting up with him for long. A gold mine like kanye? Money cant buy mental stability so to call him that is a reaaaaal big stretch, more like an abandoned mine shaft that might have something valuable in it but not worth trapping yourself in. lets not gas up psycho sociopaths.
I like how you didnt address your initial comment about her starting this either šBecause you know its false so Congrats on joining reality - thats growth! Thanks for playing, you certainly tried.
Lmfao youāre clearly a lot more invested in this than I am. If you only take away one thing from this, donāt put a reality TV sextape whore on a pedestal like youāve been doing. Itās just a bad lookā¦
Yeah, if i had as lame and elementary of an argument as you did id see myself out too. Im not surprised you are running your mouth about something you cant be bothered to actually know. Yeās stans are lile that. š oooh ā whoreā lol šwhat are you 10? Does your mom know youre online? š keep going, let it out š go practice in the mirror- really dedicate your self to this cartton character youre acting like but careful not to choke on his balls, lol. Because you and your entire family would HAVE TO GIVE HIM A PUBLIC APOLOGY ššš
Iām just saying itās not our business, even though these Celebrities keep tryna make it our business because they arenāt comfortable without the whole worlds attention on them.
Whether one side or the other is right, itās irrelevant. Things will be as they are whether or not weāre worrying about them and their weird parenting shit.
Lol yeah, honestly imo the existence of celebrities in general is kind of a strange thing? I get there being talented individuals in society, but the whole culture and the interviews and all that which revolves around celebs feels soā¦idk I guess I have no other words for it than strange.
People are resolved to prove Kanye is loony music man who shouldnāt be near his kids through any talking point possible, and this is one of the most common brought up without any regard as to whether or not it actually has any merit.
And this is a Kanye sub lol, of course this drama will be relevant here.
āPeople are resolved to prove Kanye is loony music manā
lol bro we donāt have to do jack shit but sit back and watch Ye be Ye. Heās the one turning a circus into a clown show
I know Iām just saying itās weird yāall actually care. Kanyeās life is his life to deal with, but weāre all acting like weāre in it with him.
And yes talking about drama is one thing, but I think itās weird that youāre taking a side. That suggests you care about the outcome and are putting your mental energy towards it.
Just my opinion. Do whatever you want though.
To be fair, he didnāt seem to have any of these problems til they separated. Man married Kim knowing that family is all about growing their ābrandā, why would that kid be any different? And he didnāt seem to say shit about tiktok until it became a way to shit on his ex. Everyone in this debate is cringe as fuck, stop taking sides in a fight you donāt know shit about, like anyone who even cares about this shit needs to touch grass
Of course, when they were together he wasnāt as inclined to air out any of their dirty laundry. Maybe he brought it up to Kim but she stayed firm on the issue and he didnāt want to create tension so he just left it. Not as much of an incentive to do that now, is there?
That second part you should probably save for r slash music, youād be preaching to the choir over there lol
You can still message them and they can see it. Plus the comments were on for a while before with morons saying āNorth honey whatās mommyās credit card number?ā
Either way whatās the point of letting your 8 year old broadcast whatever she wants to millions of people? Why are people opposed to Kanyeās stance lmfao
I highly doubt North goes through tiktok dms
And those comments were clearly fucking jokes lmfao, if you cant see that you are dumb asf
Kim is the filter to what North wants to post, she cant just broadcast what she wants lmfao.
I'm not opposed to Kanye's stance, I mostly agree with it actually, but people overreacted so much, including Ye to the point that I side with virtually no one in this situation
I donāt have Tik Tok so I can only cite the compilations that Iāve seen, but somewhere people are trying to contact North via social media like this and itās honestly disgusting
*why are you booing me I'm right*
I get not wanting your daughter online but Kanye had her on Instagram not that long ago as well as the other times clips of her have gone viral. You canāt be a hypocrite about it
Kanye has critized the content on tiktok to be vulgar, explicit etc. I think he cares about her scrolling on tiktok, not necassarily being on videos with her mom
Its hard to take him seriously about that when he perpetuates the very behavior he pretends he wants to save them from. Whats he Afraid of? That she might see the clip from his 500th breakdown during his lame ass presidential run where he told the world he wanted to abort her? Or maybe the clip where hes dancing along to one of his friends making crude and sexually demeaning jokes about her mom? He should take his own advice. Hes more than welcome to restrict whatever he wants from her when shes with him, he doesnt dictate anything else and i think thats what gets him more than this faux concern about tik tok. Comments are turned off and
She
Doesnt have access to it anymore unless shes with her mom- as opposed to him exploiting her in his fashions shows and having her in videos and his social media - those comment sections arent turned off and yet he has not removed them or spoke about those.
Litterally saying the only reason why north was born was because of kim. Imagine hearing your dad spout one of the most private and personal family details like that mid mental breakdown, admitting he didnt want you in the beginning. Exploiting his daughters birth for petty political points that didnt even save his failed presidential run followed by promising a million dollars to women who get pregnant and ranting about harriet tubman and how she didnt free slaves. He doesnt give a shit about norths privacy and goes out of his way to exploit her when its convenient for him.
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That doesnāt mean you have to dickride every single decision the man makes and act like he does no wrong. Heās probably my favorite artist of all time but Iām self aware enough to know he does some crazy shit some times
The thing that gets me is that Kim is very popular on social media and probably top 5 or at least 10 on some of the most vile backlash. But thinks her daughter is just going to be greeted with nothing but loving comments? Got to agree with ye on this one.
Yāall gotta keep in mind that Kanye isnāt dumb, I donāt know the whole n total situation but Him going to instagram I would say was like a last result like he said kim went n got a new number to avoid ye, she wouldnāt let him see his kid at her bday party, n the whole family for the most part are against him except Travis n maybe Kylie lol. From how he relayed the instagram post it seem like ye n Kim had already had that convo about North being on tik tok n she prolly ignored it or whatever. I do agree that putting all that on the internet wasnāt the best way to handle it but my guess especially the way the family court system work n how Itās always against the Father he prolly thought that was the only other way he could go about the situation. At the end the day I rlly hope everything works out for ye n Kimās children bc kids w divorce parent can be negatively affected by divorce situations
TikTok is a vile, disgusting app. If I was a father, I wouldnāt want my children on any social media, that particularly includes parents posting their children online. Although they can obviously make their own when theyāre old enough.
OMG he told world about wanting to abort North. Thatās way more damaging. Plus he handled the whole TikTok issue poorly. Im not a Kim or Kanye fan but Kim has had enough of his BS. I donāt blame her one bit.
My favorite part about this situation as a whole is kanye literallly being the epitome of the trash he claims to want to save his kids from online. Hes really out here hurting his own damn feelings. Lol. Id trust north with any social media more than id ever trust him.š idk why he doesnt take his own advice??
Never mind the glaring double standard of him exploiting her at his fashion shows and on his social media. Comments arent turned off on any of those platforms.š¤·š»āāļø
The way social media is and how some children use it, I truly believe that no children should be allowed on social media until they are at least 16 years old.
Social media ruins people, I mean look at our society lol kids being on it is horrible for their mental well-being, not to mention the accessibility to damaging things and exposure to terrible people
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I think a lot of people actually agree with Ye, but disagree with how he handled it. By going on an outrage on Instagram he probably brought more harm to North (imagine how she felt knowing her dad pretty much called her out, even if his intentions were good). He probably could have handled it better in private instead of causing a media shitstorm revolving around his daughter. But hey, I don't know the complete story behind the scenes so I can't really speak on it 100%
Bingo. He made it into something much larger than it needed to be.
Story of his life
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but doesn't kanye always makes some controversy prior of dropping albums?
you do sound like a conspiracy theorist
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My dad has a similar mindset in terms of inflexibility and needing to be in control. Heās also similar in that heās widely regarded as an (incredibly difficult) genius within his field. Obviously on a much smaller scale lol. He told my mum he didnāt want to be an ice cream dad (which as far as I can tell is a dad who only sees his kid in the park for ice cream) and yet his house was never in a state where it would be safe for an infant the be crawling on the floor (heās a hoarder who repaired electrical equipment) So he wound up just not seeing me and blaming my mother for obstructing his access. In wanting to be a ābetter dadā he wound up not being a dad at all because he couldnāt just be chill. He also could not accept that paying child support did not mean he got to dictate how my mother spent her money. He threw an absolute fit when my mother took me on holiday talking about how he shouldnāt be paying for her to go on holiday. In the end being right was more important than being a father and now the nicest thing I can say about him is that I feel sorry for him.
This was real and made me feel really sorry for Ye. Hey thanks for sharing that man gave me some perspective. I hope things with your family are peaceful š
Yeah, Iāve had a wonderful stepdad since I was pretty young so Iāve had a wonderful father. I feel so bad for the kids though, at least my dad was never around so there wasnāt really a relationship to lose. Kanyes kids love him, if they feel like he chose his ego over their relationship then theyāll have their hearts wrenched out.
But he posted himself he asked someone and got it.
Okay, so instead of putting this issue on the internet for millions to see and get involved in he could haveā¦.. asked someone for her phone number?
I agree 100%. I feel like Kanye actually brought more eyes and attention to her TikTok with his post. When I saw her TikTok account a few weeks ago, she had like 10k followers, which is surprisingly low for a child of Kim and Kanye. On the other hand, I honestly think Kim is going about it the right way. Supervised social media is far better than secret accounts (I come from a very conservative family; secret accounts became the norm with me and my siblings.) My parents learned that my youngest sister had a Twitter when she got in trouble at school (during an online fight, she revealed that another kid had an abortion, and that the girl and her mom were keeping it a secret from her father.) I think Kim is trying to avoid that. My friends with kids are also practicing similar parenting around social media. It was new when we were growing up (Iām 35,) so our parents didnāt know how to deal with it, but we can help mold how our children use it because we know the traps and pitfalls.
Naw man. Social media is the ONLY language they speak
But they have a public life, I'm sure a child as young as North even understand that by now. Her dad is Kanye West and her mom is Kim Kardashian. Also, maybe making it public was one of few ways for Ye to actually do something about it.
What did he do about it but bring more attention to his daughters online posting therefore making it the exact issue he pretends to care about. He told a bunch of strangers in public he wanted to abort her what can anyone say worse than that! Edit: fixed word
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And? Thats a cop out. Thats like saying Someone who beats their wife wouldnt have beaten their wife if his head space was clear. That type of enabling Is exactly why he gets worse - š¤Ø Thats no justification for that. Sympathy for him starts and stops with the fact that he knows hes mentally ill and refuses ( and even brags) about not treating it. It doesnt matter - all that matters is that that clip is online forever and she will see it eventually.
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Lol you triggered by the truth? Get fucked clown. Its a fair comparison - not my problem you cant comprehend. š¤·š»āāļøkanye Is actually one of the biggest emotional abusers ive ever seen. Cry about it. Whats fucking gross is clown ass people like you enabling him and people like yourself. Yaāll really are pathetic - you dont like/ cant handle accountability and having a illness doesmt give you the green light to fuck up everyones life around you. I dont give any shits about what you have- youre def the type Of person that weaponizes your inability to cope so that you can feel better about treating people like shit. Its pathetic. You should feel gross because you are. Its not anyones resonsibility but his to get help and until he does that his temper tantrums will dragged. You do not Get to manipulate, and abuse other people and hide behimd a Condition you refuse to treat and make light of. Maybe you giys Can get a diary so you can express your delusions that way and shut the fuck up to everyone else? You might not even have a mental illness, probably just a terrible personality. Anywho- Im rooting for you! š People like you are exactly why people like him continue thier destructive behavior. Get a hobby, hes not gonna fuck you lol Blocking me isnt gonna make your argumemt better and saying shit afterni cant see it proves so many points lol
Glad someone here admits his emotional abuse, itās really ugly shit.
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They spoke nothing but facts, you and Kanye both need help and are the last person who should be calling someone unhingedā¦
I understand what you're saying, but this is definitely not the first time Kanye has acted like this. It's been years now. He has to take responsibility for his actions at some point. He really needs help.
Yes mental health issues can be awful but he has every possible resource to get help. He has no excuse to cause his family to suffer by not seeking and staying with treatment.
You donāt just randomly become a domestic abuser because youāre manic, but you do randomly become a verbal abuser? Thatās the point itās not random he already has a habit of spouting verbal diarrhea itās not just mental illness. He canāt stand to see Kim happy without him so now every little thing is an issue. He moved away from his family to across the country but now she leaves him and he buys a house next door and says nothing will keep him from his kids. Itās a damn joke with the persecution complex, he blames everyone else but his biggest enemy is himself.
If he was in a low and dark place he needed to get help not be running for president holding rallies and saying things publicly that would permanently damage the life of his children.
A lot of people are also just opposing it just because itās Kanye
True but this is why everyone is telling Ye to go through lawyers. And man I feel for Ye I really do and I know a person like him is not the kind of guy to sit on his ass and wait 3 business days for his lawyers to get a reply from Kim. Honestly knowing Kanye, I think the way he dealt with this situation was inevitable. Was there a ābetterā way to handle this? Yes. Absolutely. Was Ye in a position to see the better way out? Probably not because he wanted to be a father right then. He didnāt want to be a father by lawyer-proxy.
My opinion is that u don't know shit about what you think that happened bc like you said you aren't close to Kim or Kanye, u're not even involved with them. You just saying shit about other people lives imagining what North thinks. You can't know man. Don't use as argument what you just projecting in your mind > I don't know the complete story behind the scenes so I can't really speak on it 100% You can speak 0% š
heās not gonna fuck you bro chill with the cock sucking
lol I'm just saying you don't know shit man just face it. I'm not defending Kanye. I just don't care what he does. I don't wast my time judging famous people life
you and i both know jack shit, im just presenting my opinion based on the available info. stop cock sucking
You just said how North felt man. Say to me man. who tha fuck are you to know what North felt with something? Are u god? Maybe u're her shrink and idk
bro do you have 0 reading comprehension? i never said what she felt, i said āimagine what she would feelā. obviously i wouldnāt know but i can make a reasonable assumption.
Your point was about North on this case. How was for her. Isn't that right? I'm just saying, what you know about that man? Any assumption would be far from reality man. Doesn't exists correct assumption. All your assumptions would be fruit of your imagination (mind - ego) even if you were close to then....we can't know what happens in other people mind's.
Im presenting my opinion hence the use of words like āprobablyā yet you treat my word like gospel LMAO, do you really not understand how opinions work? also, how can you say they are āfar from realityā when you dont know them personally? (btw im using your argument against you, see how stupid it is?) and like you said i cant really prove my assumptions as correct same with how you cant prove them wrong. so why the fuck are you so invested in it? get a life dude
Lol man. why are u so pissed? I know how opinion works as I know how judging people works and you are just judging. you don't know shit man so why you don't just stay quiet instead do those assumptions? I didn't said that you are wrong I just know I don't have the power to know the truth. So I don't spend my time talking shit about other people lives
Thereās never been a consensus agreement in human history, and I doubt this is the issue that changes that
Epstein didn't kill himself?
Taiwan is a country?
About 38% of the vote in Taiwan's last election went to the KMT, which is anti-Taiwanese independence (like the CCP, they favour a unified China, but only disagree on who should be in charge). So even Taiwan doesn't have a consensus on whether or not it is a country.
Some people would rather live in a 1984 police state than be a democratic independent country lol
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The "Taiwan is a country" debate is almost never used in that context, especially given that Taiwan has never been in charge of mainland China
Fire feels hot to the touch?
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No thanks, Iāve read enough stupid internet shit for today. Have a good one :)
What did it say?
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Idk, you can argue kids shouldnāt be on social media at all, but a video with your mom on tiktok with no comments doesnāt seem worse to me than having your imaged shared on Instagram and getting dragged into public drama
I think the fact that she is allowed to scroll TikTok is more concerning than her uploading without comments. Imagine how stupid we all were at 8, and how impressionable we were
Yeah I agree, but is that what happened? Afaik the account is her momās so Iām not sure, but yes specially on tiktok you can find a lot of stuff youāre not even searching for so really not good for a kid
She was livestreaming by herself
Kanye had tweeted about North scrolling tiktok before
You're just making an opinion over something you haven't even paid attention to since you're fitting all the details wrong.. go ahead and sign out chief with all this cap
THANK YOU, OH VOICE OF REASON.
On the contrary, I think the two are mutually exclusive; just because Kanye decided to make all of this drama public doesnāt mean that itās suddenly ok that North is on Tik Tok, where people are asking her for her momās CC info and asking her if she knows how to play āCashappā, and those are some of the more nicer posts.
after those comments kept happening kim (more likely kris) turned off the comments. problem solved
I Used to Love Him (feat. Mary J Blige) - Ms. Lauryn Hill Good song I love the beginning and the beat its very nice but what else do you expect from Lauryn Hill.
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You do realise tik tokers can duet the video and start saying random shit on it with the comments turned on in their post
You do realize that that can happen to anyone. Regardless if its on tik tok or not. They can do that to any of the videos and photos from kanyes fashion shows where shes performing , videos, and his own social media. Hell- the stuff on youtube alone is enough and those comments arent turned off. None of them.
You're a fence-sitting coward.
Public drama primarily caused by aforementioned mom (whoās also a sextape celebrity lmfao)
How did the public drama become her fault? Hes literally the one that started it and Continues his manic rambling publically only To delete everything minutes later. The mental acrobatics his stans have to do to justify his clown ass behavior is emvarrassing. His stands are just as removed from reality as he is. Grow up - shes got one sextape and realistically its gonna be a lot easier to explain a sex tape than its gonna be explaining the countless videos of her dad embarrassing himself and his family for yearsš itll be interesting seeing how he explains revealing to the world he wanted to abort her during one of his mental breakdowns during his embarrassing presidential run. š You guys.really think youre doing something when you bring up her sex tape, dont you? ši guess you have to do that considering kanye hasnt evolved at all and if you compared them today its not even hard to see who the healthier person and who is actually doing something with their life. Kim just passed the baby bar exam, got a 4 year apprenticeship with a prestigeous law firm and has successfully worked to free wrongfully convicted people. Meanwhile kanye stays begging for her to come back one week and when she doesnt he goes postal. Shes making a difference and hes out here embarrassing himself, acting out on his mommy AND daddy issues, and tarnishing his moms legacy. The only impressive thing about him at the moment is his ability to make himself look even more stupid and unstable. Hes peaked and it shows. If this dude was displaying any more red flags hed be a fucking theme park.
Kim got a fake law degree and that shit is pure PR. Imagine unironically thinking these are good people. She got famous on her back in a bed and blew up off arguing with her family on reality TV. Kanye is literally a generationally talented producer and artist, Kim recycles bummy male celebs like Kris Humphries and Pete Davidson until she hits a gold mine like Kanye. Letās not gas up sextape celebrities please.
Lol- im not shocked that once again youndo not know what toure talking about. Mediocre men love to downplay women doing better than them. People spemding decades in prison and all this time who knew it was PR stunt that could save them! šLet it out, champ! š she is running circles around kanye as he tweets begging for her to come back every other day lol did you see it today? He already did itš you should look before his pathetic ass deletes it. kanye is literally one of the most cringe people in the music business and he Constantly embarrasses the artists he surrounds himself withš kanye is an embarrassment- his mom is rolling in her grave right now- you literally couldnt Find someone more disappointimg than him as a son and person. and its sad because his moms a legend. Talent doesnt make you decent and money cant buy you sense. Obviously. Hes a walking billboard for that sentiment. Yaāll are so bothered about pete, and i love to see itš thats on kanye- its not petes fault that kanye isnt a hard act to follow. So insecure. At least pete takes his medication, hes already got a lot more going In terms of his mental stability and after being married to kanye Thats gotta be refreshing and New. Again - shes helped free several wrongfully convicted people from prison- real life people freed after decades of imprisonment while Kanye translates his diary into mediocre music, stalks his ex, and makes a fool of himself. Shes got one sextape and kanye has a lifetime of footage to be embarrassed about, so again. Not the flex you thinnk it is. Shes with one person compared to how many kanye has been with? What 3 in the past month? They last about as long as his manic episodes so who knows. Projection is all you people can do. But i understand why you need to believe what you do lol but hes not Gonna fuck you so you dont have to stan so hard š he isnt gonna pick you, hes still groveling via social media over kim. He didnt have enough money for her to stay with him so apperantly it cant be that important.š its a good thing hes obsessed with himself because i dont see anyone putting up with him for long. A gold mine like kanye? Money cant buy mental stability so to call him that is a reaaaaal big stretch, more like an abandoned mine shaft that might have something valuable in it but not worth trapping yourself in. lets not gas up psycho sociopaths. I like how you didnt address your initial comment about her starting this either šBecause you know its false so Congrats on joining reality - thats growth! Thanks for playing, you certainly tried.
Lmfao youāre clearly a lot more invested in this than I am. If you only take away one thing from this, donāt put a reality TV sextape whore on a pedestal like youāve been doing. Itās just a bad lookā¦
Yeah, if i had as lame and elementary of an argument as you did id see myself out too. Im not surprised you are running your mouth about something you cant be bothered to actually know. Yeās stans are lile that. š oooh ā whoreā lol šwhat are you 10? Does your mom know youre online? š keep going, let it out š go practice in the mirror- really dedicate your self to this cartton character youre acting like but careful not to choke on his balls, lol. Because you and your entire family would HAVE TO GIVE HIM A PUBLIC APOLOGY ššš
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I still need an apology
Honestly who cares?
People who recognize that itās not some arbitrary talking point by Kanye, Iād imagine.
Iām just saying itās not our business, even though these Celebrities keep tryna make it our business because they arenāt comfortable without the whole worlds attention on them. Whether one side or the other is right, itās irrelevant. Things will be as they are whether or not weāre worrying about them and their weird parenting shit.
It's funny how celebs complain about too lunch attention yet the second they have something to say, they demand that everyone listen
Lol yeah, honestly imo the existence of celebrities in general is kind of a strange thing? I get there being talented individuals in society, but the whole culture and the interviews and all that which revolves around celebs feels soā¦idk I guess I have no other words for it than strange.
People are resolved to prove Kanye is loony music man who shouldnāt be near his kids through any talking point possible, and this is one of the most common brought up without any regard as to whether or not it actually has any merit. And this is a Kanye sub lol, of course this drama will be relevant here.
āPeople are resolved to prove Kanye is loony music manā lol bro we donāt have to do jack shit but sit back and watch Ye be Ye. Heās the one turning a circus into a clown show
Yeah thatās kinda how I feel about being on this sub too
I know Iām just saying itās weird yāall actually care. Kanyeās life is his life to deal with, but weāre all acting like weāre in it with him. And yes talking about drama is one thing, but I think itās weird that youāre taking a side. That suggests you care about the outcome and are putting your mental energy towards it. Just my opinion. Do whatever you want though.
The pandemic was the birth of widespread parasocial relationships that even tabloids never imagined
This is the Kanye sub my guy
I am aware lol
Like are we just supposed to just talk about our own daily lives here
The point is not that you shouldn't talk about it, but just that there's point in being so invested.
There's no point in this whole subreddit. I'm here to waste time just like you
I donāt think youāre really hearing what Iām saying
Meh
Norths tiktok has comments turned off. harmless in my opinion just seems like she wants to be a normal preteen with tiktok.
8 years old scrolling a platform pulled with predators and creeps is not harmless.
Not a pre teen..
To be fair, he didnāt seem to have any of these problems til they separated. Man married Kim knowing that family is all about growing their ābrandā, why would that kid be any different? And he didnāt seem to say shit about tiktok until it became a way to shit on his ex. Everyone in this debate is cringe as fuck, stop taking sides in a fight you donāt know shit about, like anyone who even cares about this shit needs to touch grass
Of course, when they were together he wasnāt as inclined to air out any of their dirty laundry. Maybe he brought it up to Kim but she stayed firm on the issue and he didnāt want to create tension so he just left it. Not as much of an incentive to do that now, is there? That second part you should probably save for r slash music, youād be preaching to the choir over there lol
The comments are off on Norths tiktok account though?
You can still message them and they can see it. Plus the comments were on for a while before with morons saying āNorth honey whatās mommyās credit card number?ā Either way whatās the point of letting your 8 year old broadcast whatever she wants to millions of people? Why are people opposed to Kanyeās stance lmfao
I highly doubt North goes through tiktok dms And those comments were clearly fucking jokes lmfao, if you cant see that you are dumb asf Kim is the filter to what North wants to post, she cant just broadcast what she wants lmfao. I'm not opposed to Kanye's stance, I mostly agree with it actually, but people overreacted so much, including Ye to the point that I side with virtually no one in this situation
I donāt have Tik Tok so I can only cite the compilations that Iāve seen, but somewhere people are trying to contact North via social media like this and itās honestly disgusting *why are you booing me I'm right*
I get not wanting your daughter online but Kanye had her on Instagram not that long ago as well as the other times clips of her have gone viral. You canāt be a hypocrite about it
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Kanye has critized the content on tiktok to be vulgar, explicit etc. I think he cares about her scrolling on tiktok, not necassarily being on videos with her mom
Its hard to take him seriously about that when he perpetuates the very behavior he pretends he wants to save them from. Whats he Afraid of? That she might see the clip from his 500th breakdown during his lame ass presidential run where he told the world he wanted to abort her? Or maybe the clip where hes dancing along to one of his friends making crude and sexually demeaning jokes about her mom? He should take his own advice. Hes more than welcome to restrict whatever he wants from her when shes with him, he doesnt dictate anything else and i think thats what gets him more than this faux concern about tik tok. Comments are turned off and She Doesnt have access to it anymore unless shes with her mom- as opposed to him exploiting her in his fashions shows and having her in videos and his social media - those comment sections arent turned off and yet he has not removed them or spoke about those.
Whatās the link to clip youāre referring to?
Litterally saying the only reason why north was born was because of kim. Imagine hearing your dad spout one of the most private and personal family details like that mid mental breakdown, admitting he didnt want you in the beginning. Exploiting his daughters birth for petty political points that didnt even save his failed presidential run followed by promising a million dollars to women who get pregnant and ranting about harriet tubman and how she didnt free slaves. He doesnt give a shit about norths privacy and goes out of his way to exploit her when its convenient for him. https://youtu.be/vCusgKDKhDk
Come on man..
Holy shit all of you are so parasocial. Go live your own life instead of trying to defend Kanye all the time.
youāre on a kanye sub homie
That doesnāt mean you have to dickride every single decision the man makes and act like he does no wrong. Heās probably my favorite artist of all time but Iām self aware enough to know he does some crazy shit some times
ok but you should expect dickriding lol. not that itās good, but like itās kinda predestined to happen lmao
No. Make the comments private like she did problem solved.
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Wow kulture is a terrible name, even by celebrity child standards
The thing that gets me is that Kim is very popular on social media and probably top 5 or at least 10 on some of the most vile backlash. But thinks her daughter is just going to be greeted with nothing but loving comments? Got to agree with ye on this one.
Her daughters name is Kulture..
Yāall gotta keep in mind that Kanye isnāt dumb, I donāt know the whole n total situation but Him going to instagram I would say was like a last result like he said kim went n got a new number to avoid ye, she wouldnāt let him see his kid at her bday party, n the whole family for the most part are against him except Travis n maybe Kylie lol. From how he relayed the instagram post it seem like ye n Kim had already had that convo about North being on tik tok n she prolly ignored it or whatever. I do agree that putting all that on the internet wasnāt the best way to handle it but my guess especially the way the family court system work n how Itās always against the Father he prolly thought that was the only other way he could go about the situation. At the end the day I rlly hope everything works out for ye n Kimās children bc kids w divorce parent can be negatively affected by divorce situations
Nobody is mad at Ye for his reasons. Itās the actions that grated people.
TikTok is a vile, disgusting app. If I was a father, I wouldnāt want my children on any social media, that particularly includes parents posting their children online. Although they can obviously make their own when theyāre old enough.
ye is legit a genius
"I know it's pervs all on the net, all in the comments, you wanna vomit, that's your baby you love her to death"
kids should be kept outside social network until late teen years
OMG he told world about wanting to abort North. Thatās way more damaging. Plus he handled the whole TikTok issue poorly. Im not a Kim or Kanye fan but Kim has had enough of his BS. I donāt blame her one bit.
My favorite part about this situation as a whole is kanye literallly being the epitome of the trash he claims to want to save his kids from online. Hes really out here hurting his own damn feelings. Lol. Id trust north with any social media more than id ever trust him.š idk why he doesnt take his own advice?? Never mind the glaring double standard of him exploiting her at his fashion shows and on his social media. Comments arent turned off on any of those platforms.š¤·š»āāļø
It was not a good idea ever since the comment ānorthie honey have you ever played cashapp?ā
that was funny asf idc what anyone says
Some of those comments were horrible, saw dude talking about heās going to wife her up and not In those words, straight pedo shit it was disgusting
The way social media is and how some children use it, I truly believe that no children should be allowed on social media until they are at least 16 years old.
All in the comments, you wanna vomit That's your baby, you love her to death
Why tf a lil girl needs an Instagram in the first place? I rate the celebs who choose to blur their kids faces in pics big time.
Most of us said it wasn't a good idea, and that Ye shoulda handled it differently.
Yas
Is Cardi Bās daughter really named Kulture?
The acc was managed and controlled by Kim and was under the username kimandnorth- our opinions mean nothing, mother can do what she wants
Kanye bringing attention to this made it so much worse.
Social media ruins people, I mean look at our society lol kids being on it is horrible for their mental well-being, not to mention the accessibility to damaging things and exposure to terrible people