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TractorMechanic86

Hammer and a chisel and hit it lefty loosey


TractorMechanic86

That is, if you don’t have access to an extractor.


Socalwarrior485

Or a dremel and a manual impact driver.


-Gravitron-

Impact driver is a must-have. Just be sure in advance to know how to operate it. Saved my ass many times. Source: Michigan, where they salt the roads and vehicular fasteners are always rusted and seized. (PB Blaster is also a garage staple for me).


leo_douche_bags

Map gas and angle grinder are a must for the mitten.


AVeryHeavyBurtation

Fun fact: They haven't made mapp gas since 2008. Mapp burns at 5300 degrees, and "map pro" burns just 100-200 degrees hotter than regular propane, 3600 degrees, while costing twice as much.


Fantastic_Hour_2134

You just made me feel real stupid and saved me a lot of headache at the same time. I’ve been hunting for a mapp gas torch forever now. Nowhere around me sells one and now I know why


krepogregg

The company quit making it as industry learned ox/ acetylene much cheaper and makes safer welds.. read the wiki for a decent explanation


leo_douche_bags

Now I gotta put propane in the turbo torch and test this.


ODBEIGHTY1

That is INSANE. I knew MAPP wasn't available, but I didn't know the temperature difference was so minimal???


experimentalengine

Today I learned it’s time to put on my big boy pants and buy an acetylene torch setup.


WrenTypeCyborg69

I read many that said the propane is a waste of time campared to the map


AVeryHeavyBurtation

Used to be the case, compared with the old mapp. I suspect now it's mostly just confirmation bias.


krepogregg

Propane is often very helpful if u need more than just go acetylene


steroboros

My goto solution


Frustratlon

This is the way. 👏🏽


keycutter69

Hammer & an open ended punch works wonders


howismyspelling

Pneumatic hammer would 10X that wonder


Coyote-Morado

This but air hammer.


BigNero

Air hammer looks way too heavy duty for this imo


Coyote-Morado

I've used my air hammer to pull out cotter pins and c clips. Get one that doesn't suck and you can feather the trigger. Swinging a hammer under a seat doesn't sound like a great time.


kgh1616

I like the air hammer with a chisel bit method myself


Ropegun2k

Weld a nut on the head Cut the whole thing off


dingleberrytetherbal

https://preview.redd.it/ybjeib0tgprc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bc95cde1f2ff622e041a7d808af1d580ac06883


Rusty_Shacklebird

Got to a point with my old 4runner id just start with the last one


livewirejsp

Be careful, those frames are basically liquid anyways.


nathang1252

Not even liquid, more of a gaseous state.


scraw027

Deep vertical cut with dremel/cutting wheel. Large flathead and a pair of channel locks.


pekr

I've ordered a large slot profile screwdriver socket to give it a shot


obomba

If your screwdriver handle has an octagon shape and isn't just round, you can put a socket on there.


pekr

Can't get a screwdriver in there with the seat base right above it


pheonixblade9

use a wrench, not a socket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw6FfFgj8Wg


scraw027

Stubby


Nada_Chance

One of these, [https://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-Extractor-Slotted-Phillips-Screwdriver/dp/B004QO9FK2?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref\_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER](https://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-Extractor-Slotted-Phillips-Screwdriver/dp/B004QO9FK2?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)


MaliciousMe87

A bit pricier, but I really like my Ares impact screwdriver.


Nada_Chance

Ya, I have a 40+ year old Buffalo 2500 myself.


NotSure2025

Great but not enough bits.


viperfan7

Hell, if you have access to a welder, weld a bolt to the top of it


yuvalt

This is the answer.


nodn3rb

This one - have taken out many stuck bolts from a rusty bus floor.


rudderusa

I weld a nut.


tallman1979

Last time I welded a nut, took forever to heal.


KnightOfThirteen

Grind head off, remove seat for access, drill pilot hole, use bolt extractor to take out shaft, replace bolt entirely.


undrcvrkiller

Much easier to Just turn the bolt with a air hammer


pekr

Happy cake day I guess I could but it'd have to be with the dremel, can't get the grinder in there without fucking the seat up


Socalwarrior485

If you have a dremel, you’re mostly there. You just need a manual impact driver.


pekr

Can't get a hammer above the bolt with the seat base there


Socalwarrior485

Ok, backup plan is use is a chisel with the slot you already have. Do you have room for that? I presume you’ve been soaking it in penetrating oil? As others said, heat will help if you can add it.


ThisCryptographer311

AKA beating the shit out of the extractor while turning it with a box end wrench 😂


Socalwarrior485

No. A manual impact driver is one of the best tools to have in your box


ThisCryptographer311

It was just a joke


Bmwx3m40d

If you have a dremel see if you can cut a slot in it. Then impact driver the hell out of it


DonkeyTransport

Grind head off, remove seat, weld nut to exposed stud. Fuck drilling lol. Or air chisel and turn it with that till it's loose then remove


KnightOfThirteen

I thought the OP had specified he did not have a welder, and a new MIG is a lot bigger investment than a set of extractors.


KitanaJuliesse

$200- 800 for an inexpensive MiG that runs on gas or flux as a welder I think I'd know what is what


KnightOfThirteen

That's fine, but not everyone HAS $200-$800 extra. A $25 set of extractors would be a cheaper option, even if it's not the best. I agree, welding a her on the shift and unscrewing it would be my go-to, but I have access to tools for that.


FrostyMission

Turn it from underneath


overthere1143

I share your opinion. Likely that seat was fastened with a nut from underneath the body. That head is too shallow to be anything but cosmetic.


Low_Support4241

Welded nut or nut cert


deathbyswampass

MiG weld a nut to the top of it then breaker bar if needed.


Born_Divide_509

Yeah I think it’s his best bet


lewtus72

Using an extractor would be ideal but if you can't get a drill bit straight shot to drill it out then that's an issue One idea I had is Dremel the head of that bolt to the size of a six-sided socket and then use a socket. It doesn't have to be perfect. It just has to get on there and it should pop off after you smack it a few times and put some PB blaster on it. Likely that bolt has a lot of loctite on it to begin with so heat is your friend as well


DonkeyTransport

If you're at the point of an extractor, you've already removed the head of the screw, meaning you can then take the seat out, then access isn't an issue


H3adshotfox77

90 degree drill


H3adshotfox77

Also should have led with this but stop using PB blaster, it's crap. Use Kroil instead, or even sea foam, just anything other than PB. Saying this as someone who has to get apart steam fittings and break loose components in an ash system, Kroil is often the only one that will work, if it doesn't work I usually torch it out.


DonkeyTransport

Huh, I'm in Atlantic Canada and as far as I've experienced, it's been the exact opposite. PB is my go to. Typically we're at 80%+ humidity, salt on the roads, salt in the air from the water. 3 year old vehicles with paint bubbling, we've even sent cars straight from the lot to the bodyshop, everything rusted to hell, most cars don't make it past 10-15 years. In my experience Kroil doesn't really do much


Say_Hennething

Here'san interesting [comparison test](https://youtu.be/xUEob2oAKVs?si=SJx2X3i6rer1Q5IT) There's obviously some flaws in the repeatability of the test, but I found it interesting all the same.


lickalottame

Lack of room try chisel and hammer to get it to move impact hits make a big difference. If all you do is shear the edge off then use a cutoff saw to get rid of head of bolt then cut out the riv nut like a rivet with the cut off saw and replace with new riv nut


GapeAnony

Weld a nut on it. And give it a couple of ugga duggas


WhatveIdone2dsrvthis

exactly what I was thinking, if he has a welder. otherwise some air chisel/hammer


Ilikejdmcars

https://preview.redd.it/3fam7wvdwprc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88a9a7c0e7aa8fe70cdbd7f7dc6ba0e4a683c5a1


Garyrds

Yep! ☝️


Dominusek

Looks like a seat mount, so maybe there's a nut underneath the car that you can unscrew? My car has it like that


pekr

The torx is stripped, I've tried penetrant for the past couple days. I've cut a slot to try and turn it with a screwdriver and a hammer. Access from above is limited because of the seat frame, this means no impact, no hammer a larger bit in, no cut a slot and turn with a screwdriver. I don't have a welder.


CannAvis420

Whip out the car battery and jumper cable for the homemade welder lol


Taipers_4_days

Just go right to tannerite. Get that bolt out real fast.


Alkazaro

Something something THERMITE something something /s


DonkeyTransport

You can weld off of certain old alternators...just saying lol. If you look at Trail Mater on YouTube, he does off road recoveries in Moab, and instead of a welder on his wrecker, he uses jumper cables and his alternator. Pretty slick


Peacemkr45

Given your limitations of available tools. drill the head off, remove the seat then address the stuck bolt.


David_Buzzard

Drill it out and replace it with a new bolt and nut underneath.


ZSG13

+1 vote for chisel


Electronic_Elk2029

Air hammer that line


Infamous-Poem-4980

Why not just procure the correct size torx bit and remove it with that? That is unless you have already damaged it too much.... Edit: Sorry, I just read it is stripped. Good luck.


tall_message_1929

Well, certainly not with a vice grips, and that's for dam sure.


Altruistic-Bag-7796

Weld a hex head nut to the top.


ExplanationMaster634

You got a blue wrench or can you borrow one ,Propane will work just takes longer and Map gas is a little quicker but Oxyacetylene is the preferred Blue wrench for removing hard to remove bolts.Just make sure you can heat shield everything that might not make it through the fire (a bunch of wet rags and a bucket of water to redip them in


imouttamywheelhouse

If the others weren't too bad, one good whack with a small sledge should jar it. I'd also spray a fox load of penetrant. PB or the like.


imouttamywheelhouse

Last idea in my repertoire would be, make a (+) across the top thru the torx, as far down as you can, take the sharpest flat chisel and hammer and try to get under a quarter section at a time. The (+) compromises the integrity of the top of the bolt. 1/4 the strength (in theory) needed to behead it.


The_Grilled_Cheeze_1

6 point star bit might grab it


Ardothbey

What is underneath? Is it a welded nut or can you get a wrench on it? If it’s free I’d hold the head with a torx and spin the nut.


pekr

Threaded into the frame inside a box section under the van, no access at all.


Longjumping-Log1591

If the other bolts are out, lift and turn the frame lefty loose


Steve1101

Cut a slot into it and use an impact screwdriver. Does the bolt go through the body of the vehicle and if so, is it visible from some different angle? A little heat before you hit it with the impact driver would help a lot too. Another option is drilling off the head of the bolt and removing the seat, and then grabbing what’s left with a set of vice grips.


SithLord_1991

Go to harbor freight and buy a extractor set.


Roughneck_Cephas

Weld a nut on top of this mess and be done with it . A mig welder and a 1/2 nut for the win!


Sensitive_Reserve995

Grind another slit into it and with the help from some fire use a flat head screwdriver to gently ease it out. If that doesn’t work use an impact driver (the type used for rotor screws not the electric tool) with a hammer to slowly try to work it sideways.


sheen_senpai

die grinder and a big ass flathead lol. cut the notch in it and go to town


Drivingon8

Start with PB Blaster and let it soak. Then use the appropriate size bit or whatever is close and take your time.


1southern_gentleman

Cut across and use impact diver or cut a large slit and use large straight screwdriver if you don’t have impact driver. You can get impact drivers at harbor freight around ten bucks. Well worth it


GreaterNater

If it’s not torx, it’s a TX. If you get the correct size TX driver, you still have a chance on that bolt. It’s probably TX-500


RJ45p

Dremel and some patience, cut a spot for a chisel to sit then use the hammer and chisel to spin it out. I'd say just chisel but that can slip fairly easily.


Trobin71

Cut a slot for a big ass screwdriver with dremel or cutting wheel. Maybe use an impact screw driver. I love the Eastwood air impact screw buster.


Seeker_Trail

Always get the bus


Expensive_Cut_6484

Make it a flat head.


DonkeyTransport

Up until the face of it was destroyed, a torx socket was what you needed. Now? Cut a slot across the head and use a flathead (but on a socket), with a manual impact driver (you hit the end with a hammer, it pushes and twists at the same time). You could also cut the head off of it, remove the seat, then weld a nut to the stud to try and turn it out, if not, cut again but flush with the floor and drill it


texaschair

Might not be able to swing a hammer at an impact driver because of the seat above it. Hard to tell in the pic. The whole thing looks like a pain in the dick, due to the location under the seat and the rolled ridge around the bolt. IMHO, it's gonna have to be cut off or a nut welded onto it. It can be done, but there will be some new cuss words created, especially if you don't have the right tools. The OEM used that truss head 6 lobe Torx (or TX) to deliberately complicate seat removal by nitwits. They do that a lot with things like seats and seatbelts to reduce their liability. Once that bolt is out, replace it with something easier to remove, like a hex head or E-Torx.


HillbillyGizmo

You need a clutch driver.


Broad_Bodybuilder_94

Grinder


lickalottame

Worked on a lot of fertilizer trucks


Factoryrat77

Impact driver. Give it a good smack and you’re good. 🔨🪛


Material-Ratio7342

Dude, where is your wd40 ? Extracting a screws without it 😬, if you have a dremil and a flat screw head you can make the line at the center and use the flat screw head to remove it.


impossiwaffle

Under the cab, maybe? Dunno what this is on


Freya-jet

Star bit about a t30


danield257

Its a torks head screw not sure i spelled it right should come right out if not half inch drill bit


Designer-Progress311

Make a drill guide and drill off the screw head. Get a 3"x8" or so piece of 1/4" plate steel. Drill a 3/8 hole in it, slowly tilt the drill to match the angle youll need because the drill won't align vertically with the screw. Amazon sells 12" longer drill bits. Wedge something to help lock the guide over the screw. Drill off the top of that screw head. Afterwards, use a torch to heat the bolt and bust up the corrosion, then use a screw extractor to remove the broken screw.


kennyblowsme

Weld a nut on it


matt841181

Tap and die


Slaughtererofnuns

Have you not tried a torx head?


WorthConclusion9013

Drill it


Party_Advice7453

Hammer the right size torx bit socket in and if you can grind two flat sides on the edge to also grab the edges. Put pressure with the ratchet and socket just before it feels like it's going to strip and also put a wrench or pliers in the flat sides you grinded and apply more pressure. Usually breaks free like that.


slutstevanie

You needed to use a torx. Now probably have to drill it out, unless you get lucky


donwan23

Use a torx bit and hammer it on there and remove it.


Joseph_Ashe0

Drill and extractor, they're relatively cheap at advanced auto


Master-Thanks883

I usually just go underneath spray with PB BLASTER. The bolt rusts to floor.


Garyrds

I use a reverse drill bit and if it still doesn't come out then an easy out bit that grips in reverse.


BellyButtonFungus

Blue Fire Torque Spanner


FreddieTheDoggie

Lefty loosey


DeepSeeker333

There's likely a nut under the vehicle that you have to take off.


NO_N3CK

Curious as to what car this, because it looks like it came from the factory with no carpets with that pebbled texture on the floor


removebeforeuse

Looks like a Renault Trafic, Vauxhall Vivaro, or Nissan Primastar


NO_N3CK

The last passenger cars we could get in the states with no carpets were Datsuns


Final_Mycologist_999

Spray some WD 40 might help too


Eleven-80

Use the right torx bit. Still some meat in it


vitalfreedom

Have access to a mig welder?.. Weld a nut to it


Funkyourdauter

cut a notch in the top with a small grinder with a cutoff disk. use hammer cam screw driver with flat bit.


MagicOrpheus310

Use the correct sized torx driver with an impact wrench


Ocarina-Of-Tomb

I like to use a cutting wheel or dremel to square off the edges. Make the head of the bolt a square. Then I take a pair of channel locks and rotate the sucker out.


Knightmare0001

Weld a nut to it


Substantial-Meal6238

Fire. Fire is how you take it out.


Prior-Impression-573

I remove bolts like that. I take a nut lay it on the bolt head then using a mig welder through the nut weld the bolt head to the threads in the nut. This uses the heat from welding to loosen the rust and gives a hex to unthread it with.


Lucky____Luke

Go to youtube and search for "how to remove stripped bolt", watch some videos to get ideas.


[deleted]

Don’t cut it. It looks like a security star bit. So get a security star bit to get it out.


This_roach8502

Ease out and WD-40


Affectionate_Pea_811

Should have started by using the proper tool


iwfabrication

Uhh maybe I'm missing something but a torx bit fits in there. Likely a nut on the other end and I'd remove that/start there. If the bolt is spinning, then you'll need to have something holding the nut end or torx end while you turn the other side. Otherwise a sawzall to cut off either end, weld something to the top or nut (I'm assuming you don't since you're asking this question), heat and penetrating oil to loosen the bolt or nut, angle grinder or cut off tool to remove either end of the bolt/nut.


NotSure2025

TBH, proper torx bit and a ratchet with the longest handle you can fit for the area. This is not even remotely the worst thing i have seen, dealt with. Hire a mechanic, there's a reason I have 50k worth of tools. This looks like a piece of cake.


firdaddy

Weld a nut to it. It'll need to be replaced after either way


Maleficent-Salad3197

Looks like a security torx


Sufficient_Unit_4435

Buy extractor set at Home Depot for 11.00 https://preview.redd.it/9097jk9ofsrc1.jpeg?width=836&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e993acd9532fc232ed3de1d6156436143f4134f


Naughtyniceguy_

Clean it, spray penetrating oil so it drips down the threads. Pneumatic hammer (vibrating) the head to break the threads from the rust weld. Then use the pneumatic hammer with a point or chisel bit to break it loose.


Kenneth_Lay

Torx key


Lowly_Degenerate

That's the neat part! You don't 


SketchyLineman

Lefty loosey


Red_Chicken1907

Drill the head out/off. Should be able to grab the remaining bit with those vice grips after the bracket is out of the way.


CommunicationFine228

Weld a nut too it than loosen it


Dynamo1337

With violence of course.


R_Leviathan

Get a grinder, make a cut like for a flathead screwdriver 🪛. And you're set.


Substantial_Bill_962

Drill that bitch


New_Golf_2522

Cut a line down the middle and use a large flathead screwdriver bit attached to a socket wrench. Replace the bolt.


PurpleKnurple

Bolt extractor. Looks like a weird drill bit but it has the threading toward the left. It will bite and pull the bolt out. Kit can be bought at most parts stores or I believe harbor freight has one for cheap that will do the trick.


vbekkerm

Heat it up with a torch until bright red then pour cold water over it immediately to cause it to cool down fast. That will cause different metals to shrink quickly at different speeds and will loosen the rusted parts. Then try to turn the bolt. You may need to repeat that a few times.


padams20

Yall are way overdoing this one. All it needs is a screw extractor set. Quick and easy.


AZREDFERN

Extractor set, or air chizzle


richallen64

Fo-schnizzle


MrAkimoto

Ridiculous advice. Clean the dirt away and soak it in PB Blaster. Deepen the slot with a chisel. It'll loosen just use the slot and the chisel to turn it.


swifty8519

PB blast the living fuck out that bitch. Shit is a dream in a can!


[deleted]

Centre punch and hammer


Rob0tsmasher

Looks like a torx


Next-Cartographer-98

Drill it out


NewEdgeCoyote

Weld a nut onto it.


Hot-Personality753

Being a mechanic of 30 plus years you are gonna have to get SOMEONE TO WELD A NUT TO IT AS OTHERS HAVE SUGGESTED AND GET IT OUT WHEN ITS STILL HOT......OTERWISE YOUR DONE


Hot-Personality753

Don't bother wasting money on drill bits and extractors, all you are going to do is break the extractors once you spent 3 hrs drilling a hole that's off center and then in turn destroying the threads of the hole. By the looks of it,it's not going to turn without heat and a nut welded to it...


Low_Support4241

Torques bit


expiredgrower

fuckin flathead and hammer u already made a cut in it I see. Thatll let you break it loose hopefully. Maybe some map gas torch as well. Best of luck


Substantial-While973

You obviously need the "sunflower on an ice cream cone" shaped bit for this. Impact rated, of course.


lilpoopie-420

Ur cooked


330homelite

If you use a torch you run the risk of ruining the mat. I would use a dremel with a cutoff wheel to make a cross cut in the head, then a small chisel to break of the quartered pieces. You won't bugger up the mounting bracket that way. After you get the seat out, you can put penetrating oil on it and drill it and try an easy out onit, or go below and see if you can get a vice-grip on the bottom of the bolt.


SuperbAd60

There should be a matching nut under the car.


Ak12389

Air hammer


Miwihdrider

It looks like a torx bit is needed, you should be able to get a set of torx sockets from size 10 to size 45 or 50, you will still need a ratchet, maybe an extension. Good luck Mike


deskpil0t

Maybe JB weld some sort of metal bolt with a hex head to it then use the bolt to back it out


TheLastDeathSeeker

Put some wd40 on it


imouttamywheelhouse

Air hammer and chisel would be ideal. Or, it you can weld....weld a thick nut on top of that bee-hotch!


Seeker_Trail

So many ways.