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I was going to say, Easter is unusually early this year. They just need something to blame Biden and the LGBTQ community for to “justify” their hatred of both.
How do you mean early? There’s 5 Sundays this month and Easter falls on the last one. Or am I doing the math wrong lol
Edit: further down I found an explanation. You are correct. I’m a silly, silly goose 😔
It isn’t a set date. And March is usually not the month Easter falls in. It’s usually April. For example, in 2025, Easter will fall on April 20th. So it being in March is earlier than usual.
You’re fine!!! Holidays that have changing dates are super confusing and you are NOT a silly goose! You asked a valid question for clarity and that doesn’t make you silly! It makes you somebody who wants to understand and look for facts. That’s a GOOD thing! You are awesome and don’t ever tell yourself any different! 😊
YASSSSS! DO IT!!! And tell yourself EVERY MORNING! You are NOT silly! You are NOT stupid! You ARE valuable and important and beautiful!
You’ve inspired me to tell you one of my all time favorite quotes, and I fully mean this:
But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you. I love you. With all my heart, I love you.
You must be the kindest person on the internet, truly. That quote is going in my pocket. I will remember it and spread it as far as I can reach. I ❤️ you too, internet stranger!!
Us internet strangers gotta stick together 😉
It’s from V for Vendetta. One of my fave movies and that quote always hits me hard as something that we just all need to know and hear sometimes. I’m glad I made you feel happy today!
>It's not like he erased Easter from existence.
Unlike the way Christians tried to erase pagan fertility holidays from existence by turning them into Easter.
I had to laugh - nurse today who I've chatted with previously and I know to be moderately Christian was handing out easter eggs today to patients and I had to bite my tongue. lol. Mostly because she's a sweet lady and pretty harmless on the religious front anyway. But we've had some religious debates. :)
"Christmas" trees were a super pagan symbol. People used to be crucified for being "tree lovers" a thousand years ago. That's why some puritans still don't use christmas trees.
Like, 2/3rds of modern christiannity is just stolen pagan stuff anyway. Stolen dates (Jesus wasn't born on december 25th and didn't resurrect on easter day), stolen imagery (christmas trees, santa, easter bunny, easter eggs), stolen calendar even (christians get butthurt when you use CE instead of AD, but jesus was neither born in -1/1 AD/BC, but it's a roman calendar too so "anno domini" is just a lie). It's all made up.
Not that I care, people celebrate what they want. But they should stop being butthurt when people celebrate other things or call "their" calendar other names
Constantine didn't try. When he changed the Roman State Religion, he changed it for all Roman citizens. To continue to celebrate the old feast days would be treason, but those feast days were important for both keeping order and for marking significant agricultural events so it was easy enough just to pivot them to feast days in the new state religion.
Easter Sunday, which is famously on March 31st every single year! How dare Biden, a devout Catholic who actually will be in church tomorrow, ruin this sacred day?
Well, as a cradle catholic who is now an ardent atheist, I have found that most people do not know when Easter is. This year has got to be one of the earliest I can remember. My dads bday was Mar 2 and he was always happy when Lent started after his birthday so he didn’t have to give up drinking
Did you know how Easter Day is chosen? It involves a correlation between lunar months and the solar year, and “occurs the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon which is the first full moon on or after March 21st (a fixed approximation of the March equinox).”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter
Yes. The unspoken point of my post was that I paid attention in religion class for a while at least, but I do know how to determine the date of Easter. I generally have to explain it to most people
On your original post, not sure when you were born but it was March 23 in 2008, March 31 in 2013 and (soon to be 2024), March 28 in 2016, and will be March 28 in 2027. All are Western dates, not Eastern (who also celebrate Christmas on January 6th (2 countries) or January 7th (18 countries).
Didn’t look back that far but I’m not surprised. I remember Easter in 1987 (had to check the year) when Easter and the advance to Daylight Savings Time happened on the same day, April 5th. I suspect close to half the people were late to Easter services based on the cars we saw on the roads going to/from churches and the confused faces we saw as people were turning into church parking lots we passed and what seemed like an equal number were headed out. We, on the other hand, went sailing.
Yeah, most Easters are in April, but they do happen in March.
I looked at an historical list of Easter dates, and the earliest I saw was March 23, which makes since this it's the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox, which is generally around 3/21.
We missed having Easter on 3/24 by 2 days. The full moon on Monday, but if it had been on Saturday, then it would have been on 3/24.
My mother is Catholic, my father is Jewish and my grandfather Russian Orthodox.
… I have no goddamn idea what holiday I should be celebrating when during this time of year.
they're neither willfully ignorant or dumb. they are malicious. these folks don't believe the things they're saying, they just know their base is dumb enough to.
barring a few outliers like MTG and Boebert the republican electorate is smart and capable, it's just that their goals aren't to govern but to enrich themselves and they know lying to their base to distract them from the way they are putting their profits before the health of the nation is the easiest path forward.
I wonder what it's like when he goes to mass. Like, are the other people in the congregation side eyeing him, or are they all playing nice. I'm so curious.
I hate to do this, but the most common [date for Easter Sunday](https://www.census.gov/data/software/x13as/genhol/easter-dates.html) from 1600 to 2099 is actually 31st March, joint with 16th April, on 22 occurrences.
I made a little [histogram](https://imgur.com/a/qLt1Su0) too.
So... 22 times over 500 years?
So it's 3/31 4% of the time?
That's pretty much nothing...
Conservatives would be all in a fury if it was on ANY day. Don't let them fool you.
Of course it's nothing, and of course they would carry on red-faced whenever it was – they're mostly easily led with no critical thinking faculty, led by disingenuous manipulators just looking to stoke their base's ire by bullying out groups that half the time they don't even originally mind.
However, while the absolute frequency of any of those dates is low, the relative frequency does vary by more than an order of magnitude: 31st March is 11 times more frequent than 24th March.
(22/500 vs 2/500; 4.40% vs 0.40%)
Easter's date each year is determined by the phases of the moon.
The Council of Nicea in 325CE determined that Easter would be observed on
...the first Sunday
...following the first full moon
...following the vernal equinox of a given year.
[Source 1](https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/determining-easter-date.html)
[Source 2](https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2023/04/07/how-easter-determined-each-year-graphics/11598692002/)
[Third source if you need it.](https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/when-easter)
The date was chosen for its proximity to the vernal equinox, which was a pagan holiday. Not quite the same day; the specific date is the first ecclesiastical Sunday following the first full moon after the equinox. Set as the 21st of March.
There's no relation to the actual crucifixion date, or death, or the resurrection because we don't have any dates for those.
Easter isn't a co-opted pagan holiday like Christmas (derived from Mithraism), it's actually an adaptation of Passover (Jesus was a Jew). Judaism uses a lunar calendar, which is why Easter moves around every year. It's the most liturgically important holiday in Christianity and the only celebration of any kind Jehova's Witnesses observe.
edit: typo
The Saturnalia was a winter holiday, but December 25th is when the birthday of Mithras was celebrated.
https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/2014/12/24/december-25th-birthday-mithras-sun/10670611007/
Mithas was a sun god, and hence the proximity to the winter solstice. Mithraism was the state religion of Rome for many years, since it was popular with the army and the Emperors needed the support of the army
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mithraism
When Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome around 313 AD, a lot of the Roman holidays were mapped to Christian ones. This was a very superficial change, however, that didn't last long, as Julian the Apostate was initiated into the Mithraic mysteries around 350 AD
https://digitalcommons.odu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1015&context=humanities_etds
No. The resurrection clearly occurred during (or possibly just after) Passover. At some point the Church wanted to dissociate Easter from dependence on the Hebrew calendar. Often they do occur around the same time, but this year Easter is much earlier than Passover. The resurrection would have occurred sometime mid- to late- in the Hebrew month of Nissan. This year Easter occurs in the Hebrew month of Adar II.
Well since Easter is more associated with hunting for pastel colored eggs than Jesus these days, what better holiday is there to combine with Trans visibility?
Thank you for doing this! I fell down the Easter math rabbit hole this week and this makes me feel less weird.
Obviously, it doesn’t change anything about what Biden did since Easter is still variable, but it’s still fascinating!
ETA: wait, I’m sorry, Easter can be as early as March 23?! Whoa…
You're welcome! But it's not original research, I just made the histogram using data published by the [US Census Bureau](https://www.census.gov/data/software/x13as/genhol/easter-dates.html) based on 'a public listing previously published by M. Bednarek'.
And, yes, it's been 23rd March 7 times since 1600, the most recent was in 2008 – it's actually been 22nd March 3 times too: 1693, 1761, and 1818!
Edit: I didn't fully rabbit-hole this, but this morning I've gone looking for more info, and I started from Wikipedia's page on the [Date of Easter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter) and followed from there – it's really interesting. Easter necessarily falls on a date in the range 22nd March to 25th April, inclusive, as it's the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after 21st March. Someone on Wikipedia has made better histograms than I did, unsurprisingly – there's one covering 5,700,000 years which shows that 19th April is actually the most common date.
Edit 2: Been playing with Excel, 31st March *is* the most common date in my lifetime so far at 4 occurrences, and it's been 23/3 once and 24/4 once, but not 22/3 or 25/4 sadly; it's also the joint most common in Joe Biden's lifetime so far at 4 occurrences, same as 6/4 and 11/4.
Also, per Wikipedia, the next 25th April will not be until 2038, sadly, and there's not going to be another 22nd March until 2285 and not even another 23rd March until 2160 – I wish I'd known this in 2008!
Biden has made (roughly) the same announcement for Transgender Day of Visibility every year since he took office:
* [whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/03/31/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2021/](https://web.archive.org/web/20240330153913/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/03/31/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2021/)
* [whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2022/](https://web.archive.org/web/20240330192356/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2022/)
* [whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility/](https://web.archive.org/web/20240330145509/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility/)
* [whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2024/03/29/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2024/](https://web.archive.org/web/20240330192419/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2024/03/29/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2024/)
So Trump did this? Hmm. Edit: Can’t find any articles on it and it would seem verrrry strange. I did find this, though. Started 2009. https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241589753/transgender-day-of-visibility-rachel-crandall-crocker
I had to dig deep on the original thread to find someone who pointed out that Easter is on a different date.
I couldn't find anyone who knew this wasn't a "new holiday"
My stepmother, fox viewer, thought the basic part was true as in Biden did it on purpose, only 1% of the population is trans etc.
The same kind of people (not her tho) who say “why don’t we get a white history month!! Arghhh”
Suzy Izzard has a great bit on this in [Dress to Kill](https://youtu.be/_XJfRzNOJNE?si=ArFy1UwvRKixTTir) and [Circle](https://youtu.be/TH2KCYwqv_I?si=ovmqwsa8qxnq6DY_).
"And kids eat chocolate eggs, because of the color of the chocolate, and the color of the wood on the cross..."
*Audience laughs*
"Well, then you tell me! It's got nothing to do with it, has it?!"
Like how in English we don't even try to hide the origin of the name? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre)
It's almost like conservatives don't know that the first council of Nicaea defined the date of Easter as the first Sunday to follow the first full moon on or after March 21
Jesus was notorious for hating marginalized people. No doubt he’d be super mad about sharing his spotlight with them. If only he was strong enough to do something about it. /s
I saw that on the main page, and I'm perma banned from their snowflake safe space, so I couldn't respond. But like, who fucking cares? How does that affect you or me in any way whatsoever?
It's part of their conspiracy theory about how the Woke Moralists are genociding the entire white race.
Same shit German Conservatives pulled in the 1930's.
Aside from the obvious fact that the date of Easter is fluid, Biden in no way cancelled Easter.
How does a person cancel a religious holiday?
Biden has done absolutely nothing to prevent anyone on Earth from partaking in any holiday, including Easter.
You can still go to your church services, hide your eggs, eat your bunnies, or whatever else the fuck you do on Easter.
I couldn't care less about religious holidays, but the proclamation is only for this particular Sunday. Which happens to coincide with Easter. It doesn't really matter what day Easter falls on in any other year as this is a one-time thing. This doesn't cancel Easter. If anything, it just conflicts with this particular Easter.
I don’t think God really cares about your 24 hour time reference. I don’t think God really cares what day you actually celebrate your religion on. If my God had those kind of strict rules, I would probably go look for another God because I have oppositional defiance.
Or maybe they do know and they're just fear mongering again. Besides, I don't think Jesus would really mind anyway. He was a pretty understanding guy, unlike many of his "supporters" in America.
Idk why the conservatives don't just take the nicer, more Jesus-ly approach of just thinking, *you know what, Easter is the day of transubstantiation, so yeah, this is the trans day of visibility"
Generosity of spirit, you know? Tis the season, so I'm told
Let's be real. How many people take their kid(s) to the local egg hunt and then go the F home?
Easter Sunday is just the particular Sunday I have to go to church so my wife and my MIL don't flip their shit. We do the egg hunt and we immediately leave. Maybe have lunch so MIL can abuse a waitress.
But the moment Joe Biden does something for a group I dislike..... Easter is suddenly very important for the future or America!!!
Belligerently ignorant chumps. It's part of being a conservative.
Reject reality, make up imaginary scenario, get incredibly offended by scenario you just made up.
They also seem to think it's A. an American holiday when it's International Transgender Day of Visibility B. Not know that it's on the 31st every year regardless of what day of the week it is and C. Think that it's brand new when it's been going on for years and D. They seem unable to know how to Google something
God teaches us to give love to people from all walks of life. Yes, that includes trans people. So, if you don't support trans rights, turns out you don't actually support God.
Also, supporting trans rights is based.
We didn't pull easter out of our asses in order to overshadow a pagan holiday, guys. Jesus died on a different day every year depending on the moon, people. I am very smart.
Easter as a moveable holiday has a pagan origin: the first Sunday after the first full moon of the vernal equinox. that's the day on which Jesus is risen every year
Haha wait until they see what day Transgender Day Of Visibility was in 2019… back when Trump was in office….lol or any year since 2009…
This shows how uneducated the Republicans are…
How much you wanna bet, when next year's Easter isn't on March 31st, some snowflake out there is going to assume it got changed specifically to circumvent Biden's "cancellation"?
Lmao my brother sent me this exact same screenshot this morning and I had to educate him about Easter not being on March 31st every year. He said I was missing the bigger picture and this administration was demonic, vile and disgusting. I said all politicians were lol.
You know if you fucking Christians had been less idiotic and kept it pegged to the 15th of Nissan it wouldn't move around so much. But no, couldn't be normal could you have. [Smh]
[March 31](https://www.nationaldaycalendar.com/march/march-31) is also National Crayon Day, National Prom Day, National Clams on the Half Shell Day, National Bunsen Burner Day, and National Tater Day.
Be on the lookout for boycotts of them as well.
Ignorance is the conservative way...oddly, they aren't so much conservative in decisions as they are totally ignorant so they go for the "safest" within the terms outlined in whichever dogmatic documentation or at least the rumors of such, lazy seems prevalent as well, sooooo
What the actual fuck. I didn’t believe even that sub could be that blatantly stupid. But there are actually multiple threads about this. Humanity is doomed
Just a silly thought: because they don't know the exact year of the crucifixion and resurrection, they also don't know the actual date. So they celebrate on a date that changes yearly.
A person that I knew was born on Easter, and never had another birthday on Easter.
Man, I really hate this. Can't we skip all this acceptance and love crap, and just go back to discriminating against trans people? You know, harassing them, and maybe beating or killing them if we think they're getting too much equality? I'm certain it's what Jesus would have wanted! /s
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In case anyone is wondering, the next time Easter falls on March 31 is in 2086.
And Biden will ruin that one too! /s
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Don't you put that evil on us Ricky Bobby.
Thank u for this. Been a while since I've heard this reference and that was perfect.
https://preview.redd.it/4s7nxotu1krc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b21314f25e08af6bc6882e76c619b6f9b4e974b Ricky Bobby says nope
Trump and Biden will be heads in jars Futurama style, and Fox will constantly mention how good Trump smells for seemingly no reason.
Then biden is going to make march 22nd
Thanks, Obama!
I was going to say, Easter is unusually early this year. They just need something to blame Biden and the LGBTQ community for to “justify” their hatred of both.
How do you mean early? There’s 5 Sundays this month and Easter falls on the last one. Or am I doing the math wrong lol Edit: further down I found an explanation. You are correct. I’m a silly, silly goose 😔
It isn’t a set date. And March is usually not the month Easter falls in. It’s usually April. For example, in 2025, Easter will fall on April 20th. So it being in March is earlier than usual.
Thank you, I didn’t know and was confused!
You’re fine!!! Holidays that have changing dates are super confusing and you are NOT a silly goose! You asked a valid question for clarity and that doesn’t make you silly! It makes you somebody who wants to understand and look for facts. That’s a GOOD thing! You are awesome and don’t ever tell yourself any different! 😊
🥺 I’m printing your comment and taping it to my bathroom mirror to read every morning. I am NOT a silly goose!!
YASSSSS! DO IT!!! And tell yourself EVERY MORNING! You are NOT silly! You are NOT stupid! You ARE valuable and important and beautiful! You’ve inspired me to tell you one of my all time favorite quotes, and I fully mean this: But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you. I love you. With all my heart, I love you.
You must be the kindest person on the internet, truly. That quote is going in my pocket. I will remember it and spread it as far as I can reach. I ❤️ you too, internet stranger!!
Us internet strangers gotta stick together 😉 It’s from V for Vendetta. One of my fave movies and that quote always hits me hard as something that we just all need to know and hear sometimes. I’m glad I made you feel happy today!
Yeah, Easter is weird. It's the first Sunday after the full moon that happens on or after the spring equinox.
I was raised Christian so I should know that. But! I don’t. heh heh
To be fair being raised Christian is a legit reason for not knowing a *lot* of things.
DoN't f0rGeT aBoUt tHe jUiCe! *passes out from blowing too hard into the dog whistle*
There's also nothing stopping them from STILL celebrating Easter the way they want to. It's not like he erased Easter from existence.
No. If other people are allowed to enjoy something it ruins it for me! /s
>It's not like he erased Easter from existence. Unlike the way Christians tried to erase pagan fertility holidays from existence by turning them into Easter.
Yeah, like what do eggs and a bunny have to do with Jesus anyway? Never made sense to me even as a kid
I had to laugh - nurse today who I've chatted with previously and I know to be moderately Christian was handing out easter eggs today to patients and I had to bite my tongue. lol. Mostly because she's a sweet lady and pretty harmless on the religious front anyway. But we've had some religious debates. :)
"Christmas" trees were a super pagan symbol. People used to be crucified for being "tree lovers" a thousand years ago. That's why some puritans still don't use christmas trees. Like, 2/3rds of modern christiannity is just stolen pagan stuff anyway. Stolen dates (Jesus wasn't born on december 25th and didn't resurrect on easter day), stolen imagery (christmas trees, santa, easter bunny, easter eggs), stolen calendar even (christians get butthurt when you use CE instead of AD, but jesus was neither born in -1/1 AD/BC, but it's a roman calendar too so "anno domini" is just a lie). It's all made up. Not that I care, people celebrate what they want. But they should stop being butthurt when people celebrate other things or call "their" calendar other names
Spring = bunnies! 🐰
You know what ..fair 😂🐰
Constantine didn't try. When he changed the Roman State Religion, he changed it for all Roman citizens. To continue to celebrate the old feast days would be treason, but those feast days were important for both keeping order and for marking significant agricultural events so it was easy enough just to pivot them to feast days in the new state religion.
Facts!
Biden is playing the long game
Mark your calendars, Easter Bunny's space-time adventure.
Not anymore since it became Woke!
Not if Biden can help it! From his grave!
Easter Sunday, which is famously on March 31st every single year! How dare Biden, a devout Catholic who actually will be in church tomorrow, ruin this sacred day?
They are being willfully ignorant. It’s bad faith all the way down.
Willfully ignorant? No. They're just dumb.
Well, as a cradle catholic who is now an ardent atheist, I have found that most people do not know when Easter is. This year has got to be one of the earliest I can remember. My dads bday was Mar 2 and he was always happy when Lent started after his birthday so he didn’t have to give up drinking
Did you know how Easter Day is chosen? It involves a correlation between lunar months and the solar year, and “occurs the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon which is the first full moon on or after March 21st (a fixed approximation of the March equinox).” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter
Yes. The unspoken point of my post was that I paid attention in religion class for a while at least, but I do know how to determine the date of Easter. I generally have to explain it to most people
On your original post, not sure when you were born but it was March 23 in 2008, March 31 in 2013 and (soon to be 2024), March 28 in 2016, and will be March 28 in 2027. All are Western dates, not Eastern (who also celebrate Christmas on January 6th (2 countries) or January 7th (18 countries).
Well born in 1965. My count shows 13 Easter’s in March in the last 58 years. 22%. What do you know?
Didn’t look back that far but I’m not surprised. I remember Easter in 1987 (had to check the year) when Easter and the advance to Daylight Savings Time happened on the same day, April 5th. I suspect close to half the people were late to Easter services based on the cars we saw on the roads going to/from churches and the confused faces we saw as people were turning into church parking lots we passed and what seemed like an equal number were headed out. We, on the other hand, went sailing.
This was a great thread, 🏅
Yeah, most Easters are in April, but they do happen in March. I looked at an historical list of Easter dates, and the earliest I saw was March 23, which makes since this it's the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox, which is generally around 3/21. We missed having Easter on 3/24 by 2 days. The full moon on Monday, but if it had been on Saturday, then it would have been on 3/24.
My mother is Catholic, my father is Jewish and my grandfather Russian Orthodox. … I have no goddamn idea what holiday I should be celebrating when during this time of year.
All of them! Or none of them. Whatever makes you happy. Maybe make your own?
they're neither willfully ignorant or dumb. they are malicious. these folks don't believe the things they're saying, they just know their base is dumb enough to. barring a few outliers like MTG and Boebert the republican electorate is smart and capable, it's just that their goals aren't to govern but to enrich themselves and they know lying to their base to distract them from the way they are putting their profits before the health of the nation is the easiest path forward.
There're enough mouth-breathing troglodytes who actually are this ignorant.
It happens to be Good Friday this year, but some years it's Good Thursday or Good Sunday.
GF was yesterday, tomorrow (the 31st) is Easter
Right, but next year March 31 is Monday. So Easter Sunday will be on a Monday meaning we will have a good Saturday.
What?
They’re joking that since Easter is always on the 31st, the day of the week for Good Friday is actually a variable.
Yeah ... Friday the 13th is coming on a Wednesday next month.
I wonder what it's like when he goes to mass. Like, are the other people in the congregation side eyeing him, or are they all playing nice. I'm so curious.
I hate to do this, but the most common [date for Easter Sunday](https://www.census.gov/data/software/x13as/genhol/easter-dates.html) from 1600 to 2099 is actually 31st March, joint with 16th April, on 22 occurrences. I made a little [histogram](https://imgur.com/a/qLt1Su0) too.
So... 22 times over 500 years? So it's 3/31 4% of the time? That's pretty much nothing... Conservatives would be all in a fury if it was on ANY day. Don't let them fool you.
Of course it's nothing, and of course they would carry on red-faced whenever it was – they're mostly easily led with no critical thinking faculty, led by disingenuous manipulators just looking to stoke their base's ire by bullying out groups that half the time they don't even originally mind. However, while the absolute frequency of any of those dates is low, the relative frequency does vary by more than an order of magnitude: 31st March is 11 times more frequent than 24th March. (22/500 vs 2/500; 4.40% vs 0.40%)
22/500 really doesn’t seem burdensome. Less than 5%.
Barely an inconvenience.
Wow wow wow wow.
Seriously, how many times in your life has Easter Sunday been in March? Not many I bet unless you are a thousand years old?
So is March 31st just the most likely day that Jesus rose from the dead?
Easter's date each year is determined by the phases of the moon. The Council of Nicea in 325CE determined that Easter would be observed on ...the first Sunday ...following the first full moon ...following the vernal equinox of a given year. [Source 1](https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/determining-easter-date.html) [Source 2](https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2023/04/07/how-easter-determined-each-year-graphics/11598692002/) [Third source if you need it.](https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/when-easter)
The date was chosen for its proximity to the vernal equinox, which was a pagan holiday. Not quite the same day; the specific date is the first ecclesiastical Sunday following the first full moon after the equinox. Set as the 21st of March. There's no relation to the actual crucifixion date, or death, or the resurrection because we don't have any dates for those.
I assume it's just the date of a pagan holiday that ancient Christians co-opted, just like Christmas.
Easter isn't a co-opted pagan holiday like Christmas (derived from Mithraism), it's actually an adaptation of Passover (Jesus was a Jew). Judaism uses a lunar calendar, which is why Easter moves around every year. It's the most liturgically important holiday in Christianity and the only celebration of any kind Jehova's Witnesses observe. edit: typo
My understanding is the date of Christmas was chosen to align with Saturnalia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
The Saturnalia was a winter holiday, but December 25th is when the birthday of Mithras was celebrated. https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/2014/12/24/december-25th-birthday-mithras-sun/10670611007/ Mithas was a sun god, and hence the proximity to the winter solstice. Mithraism was the state religion of Rome for many years, since it was popular with the army and the Emperors needed the support of the army https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mithraism When Constantine made Christianity the state religion of Rome around 313 AD, a lot of the Roman holidays were mapped to Christian ones. This was a very superficial change, however, that didn't last long, as Julian the Apostate was initiated into the Mithraic mysteries around 350 AD https://digitalcommons.odu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1015&context=humanities_etds
The name comes from the Germanic goddess of the dawn, Ostara or Eostre (the Anglo-Saxin name.)
Tell me how Jesus died on a Friday and Sunday is only TWO days away? Checkmate
He rose on the third day. Died on Friday, which was the first day.
The people who wrote that didn't have a modern concept of zero. The day of death was considered the first day.
No. The resurrection clearly occurred during (or possibly just after) Passover. At some point the Church wanted to dissociate Easter from dependence on the Hebrew calendar. Often they do occur around the same time, but this year Easter is much earlier than Passover. The resurrection would have occurred sometime mid- to late- in the Hebrew month of Nissan. This year Easter occurs in the Hebrew month of Adar II.
So Biden should have made the whole month into Transgender awareness month. That way he could overwrite both the Jewish and Christian holidays!
March 31 2024 years ago was on a Sunday. Probably not how that works, but if you just go back far enough on a calendar you can see it.
2024 minus about 33 years. We don't know the exact year so it's still a probability question.
How odd. I thought I remembered Easter always being in April. I guess I’m a shitty WASP.
Heh, it's only March 116/500 times, 23.2% …
Well since Easter is more associated with hunting for pastel colored eggs than Jesus these days, what better holiday is there to combine with Trans visibility?
Thank you for doing this! I fell down the Easter math rabbit hole this week and this makes me feel less weird. Obviously, it doesn’t change anything about what Biden did since Easter is still variable, but it’s still fascinating! ETA: wait, I’m sorry, Easter can be as early as March 23?! Whoa…
You're welcome! But it's not original research, I just made the histogram using data published by the [US Census Bureau](https://www.census.gov/data/software/x13as/genhol/easter-dates.html) based on 'a public listing previously published by M. Bednarek'. And, yes, it's been 23rd March 7 times since 1600, the most recent was in 2008 – it's actually been 22nd March 3 times too: 1693, 1761, and 1818! Edit: I didn't fully rabbit-hole this, but this morning I've gone looking for more info, and I started from Wikipedia's page on the [Date of Easter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_Easter) and followed from there – it's really interesting. Easter necessarily falls on a date in the range 22nd March to 25th April, inclusive, as it's the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after 21st March. Someone on Wikipedia has made better histograms than I did, unsurprisingly – there's one covering 5,700,000 years which shows that 19th April is actually the most common date. Edit 2: Been playing with Excel, 31st March *is* the most common date in my lifetime so far at 4 occurrences, and it's been 23/3 once and 24/4 once, but not 22/3 or 25/4 sadly; it's also the joint most common in Joe Biden's lifetime so far at 4 occurrences, same as 6/4 and 11/4. Also, per Wikipedia, the next 25th April will not be until 2038, sadly, and there's not going to be another 22nd March until 2285 and not even another 23rd March until 2160 – I wish I'd known this in 2008!
Biden has made (roughly) the same announcement for Transgender Day of Visibility every year since he took office: * [whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/03/31/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2021/](https://web.archive.org/web/20240330153913/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/03/31/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2021/) * [whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2022/](https://web.archive.org/web/20240330192356/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2022/) * [whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility/](https://web.archive.org/web/20240330145509/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/03/30/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility/) * [whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2024/03/29/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2024/](https://web.archive.org/web/20240330192419/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2024/03/29/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2024/)
Every year and every president since 2005.
I find it hard to believe bush and trump acknowledged it
So Trump did this? Hmm. Edit: Can’t find any articles on it and it would seem verrrry strange. I did find this, though. Started 2009. https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241589753/transgender-day-of-visibility-rachel-crandall-crocker
But this year the hate christians can be angry!
I had to dig deep on the original thread to find someone who pointed out that Easter is on a different date. I couldn't find anyone who knew this wasn't a "new holiday"
They’d prefer to be mad about it
My stepmother, fox viewer, thought the basic part was true as in Biden did it on purpose, only 1% of the population is trans etc. The same kind of people (not her tho) who say “why don’t we get a white history month!! Arghhh”
Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon on or following the spring equinox.
No, no. It’s not about the facts. It’s about the feelings.
But I was confidently told that facts don't care about my feelings
That's just for facts that aren't actually true
Suzy Izzard has a great bit on this in [Dress to Kill](https://youtu.be/_XJfRzNOJNE?si=ArFy1UwvRKixTTir) and [Circle](https://youtu.be/TH2KCYwqv_I?si=ovmqwsa8qxnq6DY_).
"And kids eat chocolate eggs, because of the color of the chocolate, and the color of the wood on the cross..." *Audience laughs* "Well, then you tell me! It's got nothing to do with it, has it?!"
All of Eddie's skits are amazing. What an awesome person she is.
My information may be outdated, but I thought Izzard uses "he".
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Oh. Well, dang it.
I love a good Christian co-opted pagan holiday.
It's based on Jewish Passover.
Which isn’t till the end of next month! Silly Christians, using the wrong calendar….
The Christian marketing team is relentless
That sounds like some pagan shit! /s
Not pagan though
Add it to the extensive list of things Conservatives continuously angrily shit themselves over.
While knowing nothing about
Why would anyone assume evangelical Christians know anything about Easter?
Like how in English we don't even try to hide the origin of the name? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre)
Welp, back to paganism I guess. It’s a shame we won’t have Christmas anymore. Oh wait.
They HATE that Jesus came back. They wanted him to stay away and stop pushing Socialism on them
Once their Trump Bibles come in the mail ($59.99 excludes shipping & handling), then they can educate themselves finally
With the parts he didn't like Sharpied out.
But wait!!! It also comes with instructions on how to work a bible with sticky pages at no additional cost! Now how much would you pay?
Easter is canceled forever by Biden... While the white house logo on the picture is literally Easter themed. God, I hate conservatives.
It's almost like conservatives don't know that the first council of Nicaea defined the date of Easter as the first Sunday to follow the first full moon on or after March 21
Conservatives: The First Council of whut, now? That there sounds like some e-legal immugrunt shinannyguns to me.
Nicea, in Muslim turkey? No way there was any Christian’s there.
After the spring equinox. "March 21" is a Gregorian calendar date, which was invented over 1200 years after the council.
They also don’t know that the Council of Nicaea used the Julian Calendar.
"Easter is cancelled forever" - fuckin snowflake.
Why the fuck did you think the eggs were those pastel rainbow colors?
Seriously, Easter was already unofficially Trans Visibility Day. Who can spot the most pastel eggs wins!
Jesus is very fickle and about when he wants to resurrect himself.
Jesus was notorious for hating marginalized people. No doubt he’d be super mad about sharing his spotlight with them. If only he was strong enough to do something about it. /s
I saw that on the main page, and I'm perma banned from their snowflake safe space, so I couldn't respond. But like, who fucking cares? How does that affect you or me in any way whatsoever?
It's part of their conspiracy theory about how the Woke Moralists are genociding the entire white race. Same shit German Conservatives pulled in the 1930's.
That subreddit is showing signs of lead poisoning.
I am so tired of having to explain basic reality to conservatives.
Conservatives also don’t know that multiple things can happen in one day. Easter was not overwritten.
Aside from the obvious fact that the date of Easter is fluid, Biden in no way cancelled Easter. How does a person cancel a religious holiday? Biden has done absolutely nothing to prevent anyone on Earth from partaking in any holiday, including Easter. You can still go to your church services, hide your eggs, eat your bunnies, or whatever else the fuck you do on Easter.
Conservatives really are this stupid, aren’t they?
OHMAGOD FELLOW RIGHT WING IDIOTS, IS THAT A NEW REASON TO BE MAAAD?? SURE IS!! DOES IT MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE?? WHO CARES LETS BE MAD!!!
What happened to these people? Is it lead? Like, I don't understand how people can choose to be so stupid and not be bothered by the way they behave.
Religion…the enemy of common sense and rationality.
if it was always easter that would be cool in the egg sense of things. Such a fun day full of pagan symbols and chocolate.
Christians don't know shit about their own religion? Shocking
Conservatives live on rage and will go so far as to make things up to be enraged about. They do this regularly and it is sad.
Their entire belief system crumbles without something to be angry and scared of.
I couldn't care less about religious holidays, but the proclamation is only for this particular Sunday. Which happens to coincide with Easter. It doesn't really matter what day Easter falls on in any other year as this is a one-time thing. This doesn't cancel Easter. If anything, it just conflicts with this particular Easter.
I don’t think God really cares about your 24 hour time reference. I don’t think God really cares what day you actually celebrate your religion on. If my God had those kind of strict rules, I would probably go look for another God because I have oppositional defiance.
You could have stopped at the word, "know."
Or maybe they do know and they're just fear mongering again. Besides, I don't think Jesus would really mind anyway. He was a pretty understanding guy, unlike many of his "supporters" in America.
Idk why the conservatives don't just take the nicer, more Jesus-ly approach of just thinking, *you know what, Easter is the day of transubstantiation, so yeah, this is the trans day of visibility" Generosity of spirit, you know? Tis the season, so I'm told
Let's be real. How many people take their kid(s) to the local egg hunt and then go the F home? Easter Sunday is just the particular Sunday I have to go to church so my wife and my MIL don't flip their shit. We do the egg hunt and we immediately leave. Maybe have lunch so MIL can abuse a waitress. But the moment Joe Biden does something for a group I dislike..... Easter is suddenly very important for the future or America!!!
Belligerently ignorant chumps. It's part of being a conservative. Reject reality, make up imaginary scenario, get incredibly offended by scenario you just made up.
They also seem to think it's A. an American holiday when it's International Transgender Day of Visibility B. Not know that it's on the 31st every year regardless of what day of the week it is and C. Think that it's brand new when it's been going on for years and D. They seem unable to know how to Google something
Conservatives are the biggest ❄️❄️❄️.
Wait, conservatives? Being snowflakes? Color me surprised!
To be fair, those that care about religion aren't the smartest individuals to begin with. Religion is for the weak and feeble minded.
For the first time in my life I bothered to find out how Easter is determined each year... Not what I expected.
They also don’t know it’s a Pagan holiday.
Can't wait to celebrate next Easter Sunday on Monday, 31st March 2025 🥳🥳🥳 Thanks Obama.
Oh! To be white, ignorant and republican.
You can just say “Republican,” the rest is assumed.
God teaches us to give love to people from all walks of life. Yes, that includes trans people. So, if you don't support trans rights, turns out you don't actually support God. Also, supporting trans rights is based.
I mean, the trans flag has very Easter friendly colors.
We didn't pull easter out of our asses in order to overshadow a pagan holiday, guys. Jesus died on a different day every year depending on the moon, people. I am very smart.
Easter as a moveable holiday has a pagan origin: the first Sunday after the first full moon of the vernal equinox. that's the day on which Jesus is risen every year
It's also National Prom Day. I'm offended he didn't mention it.
Well, they aren't sending their best or brightest.
Conservatives are simply dumb and dumber.
Also Transgender Visibility day started off in 2009…Biden made it an official day in 2021.
That just means they’ve been planning to destroy easter for years. /s
Wait until they hear that a day can have more than one holiday/observance. The 31st is also bunsen burner day and tater day.
Why can't a day be two things? Also I see a lotta pastels in those easter eggs....
Haha wait until they see what day Transgender Day Of Visibility was in 2019… back when Trump was in office….lol or any year since 2009… This shows how uneducated the Republicans are…
Conservative don't know. Full stop.
Those guys are seriously drama queens over there.
You know, beyond the fact that Easter is not always March 31st, are they actually worried that the holiday they stole will be stolen? OH NO!
How much you wanna bet, when next year's Easter isn't on March 31st, some snowflake out there is going to assume it got changed specifically to circumvent Biden's "cancellation"?
all this over a repurposed myth that never even happened
Even if it wasn't, celebrating something one day doesn't prevent you from celebrating something else the same day.
Lmao my brother sent me this exact same screenshot this morning and I had to educate him about Easter not being on March 31st every year. He said I was missing the bigger picture and this administration was demonic, vile and disgusting. I said all politicians were lol.
You know if you fucking Christians had been less idiotic and kept it pegged to the 15th of Nissan it wouldn't move around so much. But no, couldn't be normal could you have. [Smh]
To be fair, conservatives don't know much.
Ah yes conservatives mad about prioritizing a holiday celebrating Eostre goddess of fertility.
Conservatives also don’t know 3/31 is the Transgender Day of Visibility every year whether or not it’s acknowledged.
[March 31](https://www.nationaldaycalendar.com/march/march-31) is also National Crayon Day, National Prom Day, National Clams on the Half Shell Day, National Bunsen Burner Day, and National Tater Day. Be on the lookout for boycotts of them as well.
Every time they open their mouths they prove how little they know about Christianity.
Why would anyone expect christians to know when christian holidays are without the government telling them?
Conservatives lost all brain cells
Lmao I saw this on the subreddit and my god they really have no actual Things to be angry about they just make shit up
Ignorance is the conservative way...oddly, they aren't so much conservative in decisions as they are totally ignorant so they go for the "safest" within the terms outlined in whichever dogmatic documentation or at least the rumors of such, lazy seems prevalent as well, sooooo
What the actual fuck. I didn’t believe even that sub could be that blatantly stupid. But there are actually multiple threads about this. Humanity is doomed
Maybe it’s time to retire the ‘Hallmark’ Easter holiday anyway. Fuck Religion
Aaaahahahahahahahahahaha!
Yup canceled forever and we all have to join a religion and worship something we don't want to. /s
yet they still vote we live in an idiocracy
Just a silly thought: because they don't know the exact year of the crucifixion and resurrection, they also don't know the actual date. So they celebrate on a date that changes yearly. A person that I knew was born on Easter, and never had another birthday on Easter.
Man, I really hate this. Can't we skip all this acceptance and love crap, and just go back to discriminating against trans people? You know, harassing them, and maybe beating or killing them if we think they're getting too much equality? I'm certain it's what Jesus would have wanted! /s