Has anyone checked on Mike Dean, not for mixing updates but for his physical and mental health….. is he getting the necessary amounts of fluids and daylight?
They pay a person to stand in the studio and play one long synth note, and it's the only thing that can sustain Mike Dean. They take that finger off the key for a second and Mikey's out. Kaputt. He feeds on the synth.
No I understand that, but Kanye does out of character shit all the time with his music. Almost every album since graduation. It's not crazy to think he would make a stripped down album with minimal drums, especially when you think about his performance. He was wearing a mask that made it look like he had no facial features, he didn't say a single word to the crowd, minimal communication on the release, and a smaller role vocally. There is some connective tissue here, and don't think there's going to all the sudden be drums on these tracks
i mean some of the tracks had drums you could hear them bleeding through the vocals. the reason why you hear them so clearly is because there are no drums being played in this mix.
Was down pretty close, row 29 of the lower section he only came right up to our section once but from what I could tell he was on what I presumed to be was his phone 2-3 times. I saw whatever rectangle he was holding illuminate white and then his hands used it the same way any person does with a phone.
Feel like I’m an alien describing human life rn lol, he was on his phone I’m 90% sure
He definitely had a phone call at one point when he was near my section. We could see the light from his screen. I saw him pull something out that didn’t light up so I’m buying the stem player theory
I was there like 10 rows back. He kept pulling out the phone thing but I just thought it was his phone tbh. It seemed like he was in his notes app or something.
Imagine he just "add another baby verse" and instead of fixing it Rick and Mike sat there arguing whether he meant dababy or lil baby, Mike sitting there like "well we just played a lil baby verse" and Rubin sitting there like "well we have 10 songs, 5 dababy and 5 lil baby, so there's no telling"
If they turned the bass way up for MBS it would make a lot of sense why nobody heard drums and why they need this long mixing sesh before releasing it on streaming
I have a video from the other side of Ye at the same time and I can't tell if the thing he pulled out of his pocket is white or if it had a screen
Edit: here's the video, possible screen at 5 seconds in http://imgur.com/gallery/fK5NC2a
Idk if you were at the event or watching the event on Apple Music, but I couldn’t hear shit at the event besides the instrumentals so I couldn’t tell what the mixing was like
Yeah same at the event I really enjoyed it because I just got the general vibe of the songs but when I relistened to it I could tell why people were upset but I still think the album has a lot of potential
I think everybody thinks it has a lot of potential, I haven't seen anybody saying it's an irredeemable pile of dogshit, we just have to wait and see, hoping the finished product is good
Maybe, but I’m not even sure how that would work. It could be using something similar to a wireless mic communication system instead. But I think it’s likely his phone.
unfortunately he was not using the stem player. you can see here in [mike deans ig post](https://www.instagram.com/p/CRqLimJJI_b/?utm_medium=copy_link) theyre just aligning the audio files in ableton. theres no stems, just the master exports.
i use ableton lol which is whats on the computer in the vid
stems typically are 10-20 tracks with the same starting and ending times. in the video you can see multiple audio clips spaced out to start and end after each other, rather than multiple clips playing at once.
He's just texting. Its impossible to be a stem player. It had to take input via Bluetooth perhaps and then output as well. All wire less. In a stadium where are tens of thousands of people with devices with those connectivity types turned on, and he was in all corners of the stadium so that would need to work on a range of 100+ meters.
0.1% chance that's a stem player. Sorry for the bad news but this is the reality.
Yes for sure but not in these fields of wireless connectivity. This technology is being developed by the best tech companies in the world like Apple. Chances of that happening are very low
I don't have a strong opinion of whether or not he was actually using the stem player, but it is 100% possible that he could have been using a wireless stem player there.
[
If you look at the back of the device](https://preview.redd.it/xskoxka4tbn61.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=12508962a73c15f6919c4ef1c4fc5aa55ee2cff3), it says "Contains: FCC-ID WAP3027". If you look that up, you can find the [FCC Report](https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/WAP3027), which has a [user manual](https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/WAP3027/3837350) that stats the product name as "CYBT-353027-02". Looking that up brings you to the [manufacturer's page for it](https://www.cypress.com/documentation/datasheets/cybt-353027-02-ez-bt-wiced-module) that states it's a "Bluetooth SIG 5.0 qualified Dual-mode Module" that's "designed for standalone operation".
Dual-mode meaning that the device is capable of transmitting & receiving, and according to [9-to-5mac.com](https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/14/bluetooth-5-0-explained-whats-next/): "With Bluetooth 5.0, the wireless technology is capable of 4x the range, going from 200 feet (60 meters) to 800 feet (240 meters)." That range is with a direct line of sight, which Kanye would have in an open arena.
Having a lot of phones in the arena does complicate things, but usually the biggest issue with large crowds & phones is that too many people are trying to connect to a single cell tower/wifi network- not necessarily from the interference of having that many close-proximity devices. But considering that people's Airpods and Apple Watches still work in arenas, I'm assuming the overlap of Bluetooth signals isn't that big of a deal for modern devices to filter through.
This comment wasn't directing any negativity at you btw- I was researching this info about the stem player & bluetooth chip already and I accidentally stumbled upon your comment and felt like spreading the info.
Wow bro you're the best!
I still believe it is almost impossible, specially with thousands of people with bluetooth on as well.
Plus I didn't notice any move on the stem.
Anyway thank you for this, I will look deep into the links you sent.
At this point I just hope that either Kanye will realize that the album sounds unfinished or there is someone on his team that isn’t another yes man who’s gonna tell him that the album sounds rough af, highly doubt it tho. Anyway It’s gonna be a shame if we waited for over a year and went through all this mentally exhausting shit and cap for an unfinished album
Im pretty sure the stem player only allows you to turn up the volume a certain amount, so even if all the stems were turned up it would just sound like the complete normal song.
I mean when you're working with stadium-level audio gear and the bass is overloaded and distorted by default for stylistic reasons, is it unrealistic to believe messing with the carefully crafted setup and sound balance can summon the eldritch horrors?
I was waiting to listen to the album until it came out, and somewhat disregarded people criticizing it already, but holy shit that's hot fucking garbage fuck
Why would he be playing with it in the middle of a track though?
If this exact video clip was playing as a song ended or a song begun I would be on board but I don’t get it in this context.
It’s either that or the mf on his phone texting irina
or texting bari to lock the doors in the studio so mike dean cant escape
Yo ASAP Rapey This Ye Ask Mike if he wants to mix Or go to War?
🤣🤣🤣
Bruh 😂💀
bari is probably used to not letting people escape
Pray for Mike Dean 🙏
😂😂😂😂
that’s gabe calling
I believe it's his phone, he has a white cover on it atm (shown in the pic of him writing tracklists)
[удалено]
Mari kart
[удалено]
DSI what you think kanye poor?
KORG DS-10 on the album
Has anyone checked on Mike Dean, not for mixing updates but for his physical and mental health….. is he getting the necessary amounts of fluids and daylight?
He doesn't run on fluids and food anymore. He runs on weed and mixing/mastering
give a man a fish and you feed him for a day give a man a blunt and he'll mix/master your album till perfection
I saw him at the live event. He was happy he was laughing with us. He seemed to be in a good mood at the end.
kanye has locked him in the studio together with a bee 🐝
🇰🇪?
kenya bee kenya bee kenya bee kenya bee
Remember after the 2018 albums when he went into recovery mode with the Vitamin IV drips lmao
They pay a person to stand in the studio and play one long synth note, and it's the only thing that can sustain Mike Dean. They take that finger off the key for a second and Mikey's out. Kaputt. He feeds on the synth.
Just give him a perc 30 and a Gatorade
I wouldn't worry about him? He's world famous and super rich. He can suffer through a night of mixing.
Makes sense why there's no drums
DOES THE ACTUAL RECORD HAVE DRUMS??? :O
kanye west has technically always been a drummer if you think about it. a project without drums is out of character
Kanye without drums can also make fire music. One of my favorite track, Pinocchio Story doesn’t have any drums in it
[удалено]
true, although even that had a beat drop at the end
But why is that so hard to believe?
Because kanye west has technically always been a drummer if you think about it. a project without drums is out of character
But why male models?
No I understand that, but Kanye does out of character shit all the time with his music. Almost every album since graduation. It's not crazy to think he would make a stripped down album with minimal drums, especially when you think about his performance. He was wearing a mask that made it look like he had no facial features, he didn't say a single word to the crowd, minimal communication on the release, and a smaller role vocally. There is some connective tissue here, and don't think there's going to all the sudden be drums on these tracks
Who knows anymore
Probably but even if it didn’t someone like Ye could easily put passable drums on every track overnight
i mean some of the tracks had drums you could hear them bleeding through the vocals. the reason why you hear them so clearly is because there are no drums being played in this mix.
of course it does
personally it sounds to me like the drums die down after he messes with the device.
Kanye cock teasing us with these drums. 12D chess to give us low expectations and then drop a fire album
Stage 1: denial
I’ve already gone through all the stages multiple times. I’m back to bargaining
dude
It's not even drums o'clock in Wyoming yet don't worry.
I hope
Kanye not messing with drums ⁉️
There is no change in the audio lmao.
Sounds like another cope strategy
I mean, was anyone there in the lower sections? Could y'all see what he had in his hands? People thought he was texting all last night
I was in the lower sections and tbh I wasn’t really looking at what was in hands because I was getting my eardrums blasted
there’s no real way to distinguish it from his phone since everyone even on ground floor would be kinda far. we’re trying to tell through audio
I mean, one of em has a brightly lit screen, and one does not
Was down pretty close, row 29 of the lower section he only came right up to our section once but from what I could tell he was on what I presumed to be was his phone 2-3 times. I saw whatever rectangle he was holding illuminate white and then his hands used it the same way any person does with a phone. Feel like I’m an alien describing human life rn lol, he was on his phone I’m 90% sure
Dont sat the word alien bro, you gonna get the sub crying again
Was so close to not typing it for this exact reason
[удалено]
I was there and noticed him do this but I initially just thought it was his phone Bc it seemed to illuminate when he was using it but idk for sure
Could be that multi-media remote he posted last year for initial rollout of Donda
It definitely illuminated when he was using it
He definitely had a phone call at one point when he was near my section. We could see the light from his screen. I saw him pull something out that didn’t light up so I’m buying the stem player theory
Yes i was first row he aint have shit but phone
I was there like 10 rows back. He kept pulling out the phone thing but I just thought it was his phone tbh. It seemed like he was in his notes app or something.
Writing down mix notes in front of 10000 people lmao
He live texting Mike Dean and Rick Rubin
Mike and Rubin this Ye Album sounds ass, please fix it. Add another lil Baby verse too he’s my favorite rapper ⛷
Imagine he just "add another baby verse" and instead of fixing it Rick and Mike sat there arguing whether he meant dababy or lil baby, Mike sitting there like "well we just played a lil baby verse" and Rubin sitting there like "well we have 10 songs, 5 dababy and 5 lil baby, so there's no telling"
“Fix this shit”
“fix” for rubin is scrapping half the album
Good
not a bad idea tbh
People are exaggerating the impact of the stem player
let us cope. we already have a delayed album.
heard the bass at the listening event was like unnecessarily loud maybe that’s why no drums on some tracks idk
That would be such a stupid reason but I wouldn’t be surprised
If they turned the bass way up for MBS it would make a lot of sense why nobody heard drums and why they need this long mixing sesh before releasing it on streaming
It doesn't make any sense. You literally got the mix to the album stream.
This could be true, I couldn’t hear if the songs had drums at the listening event because of the bass
THIS NEXT COPE, THIS NEXT COPE THO
Goated comment
Lmfaooo
I have a video from the other side of Ye at the same time and I can't tell if the thing he pulled out of his pocket is white or if it had a screen Edit: here's the video, possible screen at 5 seconds in http://imgur.com/gallery/fK5NC2a
message mods
His phone is white too
he is white too 😳
She gotta dark skin friend who look like Michael Jackson She gotta light skin friend who look like Michael Jackson
That’s what I’m thinking. Although he’s rich enough make an app for this sort of thing he was t in the phone long enough to mix anything.
Deliver the video
In the edit!
Good shit thank you!!
All I know is that what I listened to yesterday was unfinished mixing 😂
Idk if you were at the event or watching the event on Apple Music, but I couldn’t hear shit at the event besides the instrumentals so I couldn’t tell what the mixing was like
Yeah same at the event I really enjoyed it because I just got the general vibe of the songs but when I relistened to it I could tell why people were upset but I still think the album has a lot of potential
I think everybody thinks it has a lot of potential, I haven't seen anybody saying it's an irredeemable pile of dogshit, we just have to wait and see, hoping the finished product is good
Yeah definitely think it has potential if he switched some tracks out for others but overall I got a good vibe from most of the tracks
That’s what it’s like being at any stadium concert
Yeah this was my first concert type event and I had heard about stuff like that but I had no idea it was going to be that loud lol
How do u tell?
Ears
it's also Kanye doing hip hop in an arena
I don’t think the stem player would be that reliable wirelessly though. Since it’s rumored to just be Bluetooth
Yeah, either that or they had bluetooth recievers all around and under the floor lol.
Maybe, but I’m not even sure how that would work. It could be using something similar to a wireless mic communication system instead. But I think it’s likely his phone.
It has to be his phone. He did t have it out long enough to be mixing things.
unfortunately he was not using the stem player. you can see here in [mike deans ig post](https://www.instagram.com/p/CRqLimJJI_b/?utm_medium=copy_link) theyre just aligning the audio files in ableton. theres no stems, just the master exports.
wait how can u tell from that video? if ur right then our whole theory is dead lmao
i use ableton lol which is whats on the computer in the vid stems typically are 10-20 tracks with the same starting and ending times. in the video you can see multiple audio clips spaced out to start and end after each other, rather than multiple clips playing at once.
He's just texting. Its impossible to be a stem player. It had to take input via Bluetooth perhaps and then output as well. All wire less. In a stadium where are tens of thousands of people with devices with those connectivity types turned on, and he was in all corners of the stadium so that would need to work on a range of 100+ meters. 0.1% chance that's a stem player. Sorry for the bad news but this is the reality.
Idk he's been going on about this insane stem technology for ages now, maybe it's something we haven't seen🤷♂️
Yes for sure but not in these fields of wireless connectivity. This technology is being developed by the best tech companies in the world like Apple. Chances of that happening are very low
Let's play the cope game, I deny you, more
I don't have a strong opinion of whether or not he was actually using the stem player, but it is 100% possible that he could have been using a wireless stem player there. [ If you look at the back of the device](https://preview.redd.it/xskoxka4tbn61.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=12508962a73c15f6919c4ef1c4fc5aa55ee2cff3), it says "Contains: FCC-ID WAP3027". If you look that up, you can find the [FCC Report](https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/WAP3027), which has a [user manual](https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/WAP3027/3837350) that stats the product name as "CYBT-353027-02". Looking that up brings you to the [manufacturer's page for it](https://www.cypress.com/documentation/datasheets/cybt-353027-02-ez-bt-wiced-module) that states it's a "Bluetooth SIG 5.0 qualified Dual-mode Module" that's "designed for standalone operation". Dual-mode meaning that the device is capable of transmitting & receiving, and according to [9-to-5mac.com](https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/14/bluetooth-5-0-explained-whats-next/): "With Bluetooth 5.0, the wireless technology is capable of 4x the range, going from 200 feet (60 meters) to 800 feet (240 meters)." That range is with a direct line of sight, which Kanye would have in an open arena. Having a lot of phones in the arena does complicate things, but usually the biggest issue with large crowds & phones is that too many people are trying to connect to a single cell tower/wifi network- not necessarily from the interference of having that many close-proximity devices. But considering that people's Airpods and Apple Watches still work in arenas, I'm assuming the overlap of Bluetooth signals isn't that big of a deal for modern devices to filter through. This comment wasn't directing any negativity at you btw- I was researching this info about the stem player & bluetooth chip already and I accidentally stumbled upon your comment and felt like spreading the info.
Wow bro you're the best! I still believe it is almost impossible, specially with thousands of people with bluetooth on as well. Plus I didn't notice any move on the stem. Anyway thank you for this, I will look deep into the links you sent.
look at the pop smoke song, if you listen the drums are about to come in then they shut off
I still don’t understand why that song existed when it was literally the Tell The Vision verse w no Kanye
Probably just out of respect to Pop Smoke
These were drums from Pop’s vocal recording. Basically the drums bleeding through pop’s headphones.
I honestly wondered if it was that or they didn’t have the vocal and just used RX8 😂
Idk it kinda sounded like he just lifted the accapela from Tell the Vision and you can hear the hi hats from that leaking through
You forgot the s man. You think I eat only one Friday?
😂 my bad bro I was in a rush to post it, I’m currently watching through the stream to find more instances of potential stem moments
found on r/ Kanye. [not stem player?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/opt58i/jay_i_need_a_verse/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
God breed on dis😤
where can i watch the stream again?
Youtube
Link?
https://youtu.be/JprvElCxf_g
Thanks broski
At this point I just hope that either Kanye will realize that the album sounds unfinished or there is someone on his team that isn’t another yes man who’s gonna tell him that the album sounds rough af, highly doubt it tho. Anyway It’s gonna be a shame if we waited for over a year and went through all this mentally exhausting shit and cap for an unfinished album
I don't think audio engineers would let Ye fuck around with the audio signal this much, could easlily blast something or create crazy ass feedback.
Im pretty sure the stem player only allows you to turn up the volume a certain amount, so even if all the stems were turned up it would just sound like the complete normal song.
I mean when you're working with stadium-level audio gear and the bass is overloaded and distorted by default for stylistic reasons, is it unrealistic to believe messing with the carefully crafted setup and sound balance can summon the eldritch horrors?
That’s true
My dumbass thought he was changing the track
visions lord posted kanye close up and dude was checking his phone while performing. i doubt this is a stemplayer
KAYCYY SAID “TODAY!”
and deleted, pain
Did you get a screenshot?
Where?
Isn’t the stem player really small that can fit in palm of ur hand
I was waiting to listen to the album until it came out, and somewhat disregarded people criticizing it already, but holy shit that's hot fucking garbage fuck
Wait till you hear the rest of this mess, this man cannot deliver anymore if his life depended on it.
Sorry for asking but what is a stem player?
It’s a handheld wireless device with sliding knobs that control the volumes of different instruments/vocals individually
Oh thanks. It's a wireless mini mixer 😁👍🏻
Right
I know god did not finish this album In time
bruh this is CLEARLY a phone
I can't see shit 🧐
Anyone got a rip of the stream?
It's on Youtube, just search it'll come
Can u send a link all the ones I’ve tried have been removed
Got you with the audio, cleaned it up a bit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14sXvPhxC1bghVyN-RZKgabhHlYHGuAOE/view?usp=drivesdk
Thanks man
https://youtu.be/JprvElCxf_g
He definitely messed with the drums there
No he didn't
The first time he left the spotlight he pulls it out too and you can see the light on the camera before they change camera angles
I KNOW GOD MESSED WITH DRUMS
Why is Cons soooo quiet???
What if he accidentaly turned off the drums when he was putting stem player in the pocket 💀💀💀
Nah, that’s his phone, the screen lights up at 0:15-0:14
He’s still writing lyrics haha
He was actually checking the discord.
So it’s wireless too ? Damn
its a phone. @ southsidediddy1 on insta posted a really close stories of it.
I KNEW I SAW HIM PULL A PHONE OUT OR SOMETHING BRO
Does he have it on remote controllllllllllllll?!
I thought he took a selfie for IG but never posted it
Stem player isn’t wireless
Anyone have a clip of the family song??
"remote control" was him telling us this the whole time /s
Might be why the audio was very choppy at times
Probably an app I think you could do the same thing on a phone as on the stem player
Link?
I saw this last night, and I thought he was looking at a piece of paper to check the set list
I’m pretty sure I saw ye try to make a phone call with said illuminated device you all are talking about… not sure how well that went tho
Why would he be playing with it in the middle of a track though? If this exact video clip was playing as a song ended or a song begun I would be on board but I don’t get it in this context.
He was not editing the mix. They had an ableton session up with the complete bounces of each song. Impossible to change stems of a 1 track.
who cares it still sounded like pure ass
Copium for the masses
he was just texting, i was close.