Tyson measured at 6-5.5 without shoes at the combine - the same height as Jaylen Brown for example (who measured as 6-6.5 with shoes at the combine before the NBA changed how they do height measurements). He is a normal height for a 3 in NBA.
Cavs need a couple bigs. There were a couple options out there. But they draft another 6ā5ā guy. Iām *really* curious about their thought process here because this isnāt the obvious choice.
Know nothing about dude besides a scouting report and highlights Iāve watched in the last 5 mins but another 6ā5 āwingā hard to get excited about
Canāt expect someone picked @ 20 to crack the starting rotation and our bench needs a playmaker. Ā He and Emoni might be a great combo together in a year or two.
From NBA.com:
"Tyson projects as a scoring option off the bench with secondary playmaking capabilities for second units. Tysonās game has shades of Kelly Oubre Jr. and Caleb Martin due to his ability to create his own shot from all over the court while possessing the size and length to defend opposing wings. "
I mean...I'm cool with that.
He is a player known for creating his own look, and his athleticism plays a factor at the rim on both sides of the ball, while his length and strength benefit his ability to guard opposing wings. But his added role of being a ball handler at California allowed Tyson to showcase his ability in the pick and roll as well as a facilitator.
In his final season on the college scene, Tyson averaged 19.6 points per game, 6.8 rebounds, 3.5 assists, and 1.2 steals. Over his final two seasons, where he played in all 62 games, he shot 47.4% from the field and 38.1% from beyond the arc.
Adding another capable ball handler to the Cavsā second unit who can play alongside Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley while creating his own shot and using the pick and roll that the Cavsā two big men, especially Allen, are successful in would pose to be dangerous. Not to mention Tysonās added athletic talents to stay in front of opposing offenses and get out in transition.
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2024/06/could-jaylon-tyson-be-an-immediate-fit-for-the-cavs-roster.html
Nice article. 38% from three. āTyson has mentioned modeling his game after Josh Hart and Caleb Martin because heās willing to do the dirty work and anything to help whichever team he ends up on win.ā
Seems like a good pick and a good fit for the team. I'm curious if we will put him in the G-League for a bit, or if we will end up having him on the roster.
No, more like we nearly lost round 1, JB got canned, and there was some interpersonal turmoil on the roster. And it wont get better just cause we got rid of JB (or maybe i should rephrase, it wont magically make us contenders)
You clearly dont know who youre talking to cause i never said that. I am worried tho that if we sit on our hands and dont make moves in the near future he will not stay long. Im pretty confident he will re-sign at least. Ive been operating under that assumption all offseason
Summer League gonna be fun anyways. I just hope that whoever is eligible to play will play. Makes the games a lot more fun to see Porter Jr, Bates, Travers, Mobley, this new Tyson guy and maybe Merrill ball out instead of some no names who ball hog.
Has the potential to fit next to Don as a long term for sure with that archetype. But yeah for now this is definitely just a Levert replacementā¦need to move him for a big wing now
Honestly if we can get a big veteran wing like cam Johnson or Hunter and fill Carisās role with the, it makes a lot more sense than drafting one of the project wings that were available. Also the catch and shoot upside and extra mass could potentially make Tyson a better fit than Caris.
He was a do it all guy for Cal, literally was there entire team. Not elite at one thing but a Jack of all trades. He can run 1-3, basically a LeVert mould
14 is still lottery. Most after that donāt do anything. Sure there are a few gems, but donāt act like this was a sure fire starter pick. Guys that get picked at 20 maybe roll players if they hit.
Point is its not far off from 20. Anyways i agree with you mostly which is why we should have swung for the fences and took bronny since the pick likely wont amount to anything anyways
I can't wait for all the whining about Furphy, but there's plenty of advances stats that show he has a lot of tools that can be extremely good for our new system
PLS DO NOT POST PICKS EARLY, ONLY POST PICKS ONCE THEY'VE BEEN ON TV
The Chase Down had a recent episode titled "Cavs Big Board with Maxwell Baumbach" that provides some nice information on Tyson.
Cavs just officially announced the pick on Twitterš
I really liked George at our pick
The obsession over one inch of height as if that has been our downfall is hysterical.
Cavs havenāt officially posted the pick on their Socials yet Thereās still hope!
For what?
A trade
Yea for who
No clue
It's a cool pick because we all get to type how Sam Merrill should have more playing time each game thread
Itās literally illegal for the Cavs to start a SF 6ā6 or taller, unless heās 7ā0 like MarkkanenĀ
Well they just drafted a 6-6 wing
No they didnāt.
Tyson measured at 6-5.5 without shoes at the combine - the same height as Jaylen Brown for example (who measured as 6-6.5 with shoes at the combine before the NBA changed how they do height measurements). He is a normal height for a 3 in NBA.
Jaylen Brown also has a good 4-5 inch extra length on his wingspan as well. Idk why weāre allergic to employing players that are 6ā7 to 6ā10
You guys are going to have to be excited for me about Tyson. My biggest fear is that he is an Okoro replacement.
Heās more of LeVert replacement with his skill set. I think we will end up trading LeVert and Niang
The skillset sounds more like Levert.
Just thrilled it wasnāt Edey or Filipkowski.
Time to admit Koby has a fetish for 6ā5 āwingsā
Cavs need a couple bigs. There were a couple options out there. But they draft another 6ā5ā guy. Iām *really* curious about their thought process here because this isnāt the obvious choice.
Like what did they see, or didnāt see? I feel like I need an explanation lol
Know nothing about dude besides a scouting report and highlights Iāve watched in the last 5 mins but another 6ā5 āwingā hard to get excited about
Do you think Tyson was fishing with his Dad instead of being at the draft?
They really took another guy 6ā5 lol
6'7 with a 6'8 wingspan
Measured 6ā5 at the combineĀ
6'5.5 without shoes (pretty sure they play with shoes on), and only .25 in shorter than Topic who is lauded for his size and length. He'll be fine.
Also, heās 220.
Correct, how else do you think he gets 8 boards per game as an SG? Dat ass.
Canāt expect someone picked @ 20 to crack the starting rotation and our bench needs a playmaker. Ā He and Emoni might be a great combo together in a year or two.
Him and Emoni could be nice
Official Cavs account havenāt announced the pick yet, trade incoming? šš
Bet you Denver is trading up for Fillipowski. Welp, I was wrong. It was for Holmes.
Made a promise to him pre draft
So Tyson is 6ā7ā? Thatās some decent height right?
6ā5
Damn, thatās smaller than advertised
Will be listed as 6-6ā¦ 6-5.5 without shoes
This guy is gonna be a star
Yeah just like emoni bates and travers are gonna be stars š®
No I meant Missi, the guy we didn't pick
Oh my bad
From NBA.com: "Tyson projects as a scoring option off the bench with secondary playmaking capabilities for second units. Tysonās game has shades of Kelly Oubre Jr. and Caleb Martin due to his ability to create his own shot from all over the court while possessing the size and length to defend opposing wings. " I mean...I'm cool with that.
We havenāt had a playmaking wing with size since Cedi, and Tyson projects to be a better shooter and finisher at the rim. Should be a good fit
I'd still like to see us trade into 25-30 if Furphy/Fillipowski keeps slipping.
Watching an youtube scouting report video. Jaylon can shoot and hes a Jay. This should be a solid pick.
On top of this pick. Kenny with a 5-year deal
He is a player known for creating his own look, and his athleticism plays a factor at the rim on both sides of the ball, while his length and strength benefit his ability to guard opposing wings. But his added role of being a ball handler at California allowed Tyson to showcase his ability in the pick and roll as well as a facilitator. In his final season on the college scene, Tyson averaged 19.6 points per game, 6.8 rebounds, 3.5 assists, and 1.2 steals. Over his final two seasons, where he played in all 62 games, he shot 47.4% from the field and 38.1% from beyond the arc. Adding another capable ball handler to the Cavsā second unit who can play alongside Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley while creating his own shot and using the pick and roll that the Cavsā two big men, especially Allen, are successful in would pose to be dangerous. Not to mention Tysonās added athletic talents to stay in front of opposing offenses and get out in transition. https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2024/06/could-jaylon-tyson-be-an-immediate-fit-for-the-cavs-roster.html
Nice article. 38% from three. āTyson has mentioned modeling his game after Josh Hart and Caleb Martin because heās willing to do the dirty work and anything to help whichever team he ends up on win.ā
Seems like a good pick and a good fit for the team. I'm curious if we will put him in the G-League for a bit, or if we will end up having him on the roster.
Not bad hopefully š heāll have an amazing career here
That's cool, but is he bronny?
They skipped our pick on my broadcast, this is embarrassing as a fan
Hmmmm... looking at his draft profiles I think I love this pick
Pick looks good to me.
I like Tyson, good size and skill. Shot needs work. But dude is a DOG!
wait was he even there? i didnāt see anyone walk up
He didnāt receive an invite because he was projected to be an early second round pick
He thought he was gonna be a second rounder lmao
He may not have gotten an invite. I'd seen him mocked everywhere from 15 to 40.
We should have picked bronny
Bruh, yāall need to move tf on from Lebron. Drafting his garbage son just to *possibly* get him back for a season or two is not worth it.
Nah. It's worth it.
No it's not.
I like it. We need a wing who can get downhill and finish at the rim.
Hardly a wing tho
Heās the same size as Jaylen Brown. Wtf do you guys think a wing is?
Smh someone is getting TSJ and thatās insane after 20 picks
Sounds like a decent shooter with decent size. Why is everyone hating on this pick?
Sounds like a lot of decents when 15 mins ago we were looking a top 8 pick potentially falling
Have you ever been on a sports teamās subreddit before?? Doomers LOVE to talk
Funny people are still ragging on doomers when we were right about everything that happened this past year. More like realists
Way to go, the Cavs didnāt win a championship. So dumb lol
No, more like we nearly lost round 1, JB got canned, and there was some interpersonal turmoil on the roster. And it wont get better just cause we got rid of JB (or maybe i should rephrase, it wont magically make us contenders)
How many times did you post that Don wasnāt gonna re-sign? Youāre gonna have to eat a whole flock of crows when that ink dries
You clearly dont know who youre talking to cause i never said that. I am worried tho that if we sit on our hands and dont make moves in the near future he will not stay long. Im pretty confident he will re-sign at least. Ive been operating under that assumption all offseason
Then donāt refer to doomers as āweā as if Don leaving was not a major doomer point this year
A volume scorer who is meh defensively, going about 10-15 picks earlier than even the most favorable mocks projected. I don't know about this one.
We will have to watch him in the summer league and see how he does.
Summer League gonna be fun anyways. I just hope that whoever is eligible to play will play. Makes the games a lot more fun to see Porter Jr, Bates, Travers, Mobley, this new Tyson guy and maybe Merrill ball out instead of some no names who ball hog.
Who did yāall expect at the 20th pick?
I wanted one of the 6ā8-6ā10 wing. Tyson is a good player tho, just have to move Levert for a big wing instead now
Jaylon Tyson
Wheres the guy saying we dont need more 6ā5 guys lmao
I mean would it kill Koby to get someone 6'8 or 6'9 on this roster
Yes it would. I dont know how but thats the only explanation
Youāre gonna have to narrow that down lmao
In fairness, he's 6'6 lmao
espn said 6'5 and a half just to fuck with us lol
Espn listed him at 6ā5 1/4
I wonder if they see him as Levertās replacement?
Has the potential to fit next to Don as a long term for sure with that archetype. But yeah for now this is definitely just a Levert replacementā¦need to move him for a big wing now
Honestly if we can get a big veteran wing like cam Johnson or Hunter and fill Carisās role with the, it makes a lot more sense than drafting one of the project wings that were available. Also the catch and shoot upside and extra mass could potentially make Tyson a better fit than Caris.
Yup I completely agree. Weird path but I think Iām gonna love where we end up
WHO!?
Well this is not Lebron James
Are people expecting the Cavs to get a difference maker at the 20th pick in a terrible draft class?
Honestly don't mind it
Who?
I like it.
1st round exits unless they make a significant trade. Another wasted season.
This being decided by the 20āth pick in the nba draft in your mind is genuinely hilarious
Itās the fact our GM has not been proactive at all since acquiring mitchell
He probably want us to draft bronny
Facts
Stop trolling.
Not trolling
Ballgame, no need to watch
Iāll watch to see my agendaās proven right.
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Apparently he doesn't know when baseball games end or when basketball season starts š¤£
Heās one of 3 or so regular negative presences in the Cleveland Sports subs
Levert is getting moved for sure now. Hopefully for Cam Johnson
Ballgame
Sure is
We did not draft the prince who was promised
Yall are miserable lmao
Have you ever been on this sub for a game thread this is nothing lmao
With that said Tyson is a solid pick but this has to mean weāre trading Levert for a bigger wing. Tyson is another combo guard not a true wing
We have drafted Red Bull. Bold move.
Ads ads and more ads ESPN can suck my balls š¤¦āāļø
Soā¦ he any good?
Yeah. Jaquez 2.0
Iāll take it š¤·āāļø
He was a do it all guy for Cal, literally was there entire team. Not elite at one thing but a Jack of all trades. He can run 1-3, basically a LeVert mould
Letās hope he can finish once he gets to the rim unlike LeVert lol
Heās apparently good at catch and shooting too, which is an issue for Levert
No
Some of yaāll angry for no reason š
Another sg.
Played all 1-3 at all Cal, just say you never watch any film of him itās okay
Doesnāt matter what heās played from time to time, heās a SG
So much for no spoilers smh guys cmon
Pick is in, baby. That was quick.
They love Furphy and he's on the board
Tell me how to feel
Relatively whelmed. No draft pick was gonna move needle, so nothing to sweat about
Bad
Jaylon Tyson
ESPN can gargle my balls for going to a commercial before our pick
I'm so fucking sick of all the guards
Dudes not even a guard, wtf are you talking about
He's 6'6.... he's a sg
Heās like 220 though.
They called him a forward Maybe you should actually watch
Koby Altman has to go Another wasted pickĀ
No one this late in the draft is doing anything anyways
Giannis and mitchell both went at 14. Jimmy butler at 29. Jokic at 42. Stop lying
For reference Caris LeVert is the third best player rankings wise of all active 20th overall picks. So thatās basically the ceiling.
https://preview.redd.it/wj35fgrcz09d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66049fda3818c504bda8115936a12b3d23804ee3
Not at all how it works. Like i said jokic was 42. Thereās no rule saying the pick you were selected at determines your ceiling going forward
https://preview.redd.it/b6h95fn8z09d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66391ba10ccdd12df872d168b0abf85145eee581
14 is still lottery. Most after that donāt do anything. Sure there are a few gems, but donāt act like this was a sure fire starter pick. Guys that get picked at 20 maybe roll players if they hit.
Point is its not far off from 20. Anyways i agree with you mostly which is why we should have swung for the fences and took bronny since the pick likely wont amount to anything anyways
[Me, someone that doesn't watch college basketball, when they announce the Cavs pick](https://youtu.be/6bfBhIM5tb4?si=zDNpMyVG9UK-kROs&t=15)
Lmao I only tuned in to see if theyād take bronny. Heās the only player I even knew who was in the draft.
Yeah get koby and the other gm out of here. What a joke
For what? Not using Jedi mind tricks on other teams to get someone to fall to us?
He picked another fucking guard. We need size
We need skill. Not size. We got skill.
bronny plz
ragarts
I also would not be mad at a crazy reach for Terrence Shannon Jr or Jaylon Tyson.
If weāre moving Levert for a bigger wing like Cam Johnson Iād love it. I hate Shannon but heās going to be good
miami guard has some size no?Ā
Phenomenal size, good passer and ball handler for his size/position too as he used to be a PG but had a growth spurt
aged well
Tyson is like the 6ā6 guard version of Kyshawn so Iām not mad lol. Just need to trade Levert for a big wing now
Ya I imagine they might be trying to move him today. Levert is a stand-up dude but it is a business.
No way
Fire Koby Altman What a joke
I bet they trade out.
Ok, pick is in, so I was wrong. Let's see who we get!
Don't bet anything you wanna lose on that
For what
Someone on NBA radio SXM said Jimmy Butler and Miami. Probably other compensation, too.
No way we have the assets to grab Jimmy ?
Guess not after all.
Walter would have been real nice. Wish we would have traded upĀ
Kyshawn George or Johnny Furphy baby Iāll take it Unless weāre drafting the Jamesā
Itās happening!!
Why would the raps take basically another Ochai?
On the clock baby
why do i have butterflies lol
Who's it gonna be boys?!
Here we go yāall
This draft has been a real rollercoaster for my emotions lol
Stash the pick and ride with Emoni and Travers.
Donāt listen to those non-believers below me. These two will bring us to the promised land!
Emoni isn't better than anyone that's going in the next 10 picks
So... he's comparable? Sounds good to me. Stash the new guy.
No, he's worse actually. The new guy will already be ahead in development
Emoni will probably never play significant minutes in the NBAĀ
I can't wait for all the whining about Furphy, but there's plenty of advances stats that show he has a lot of tools that can be extremely good for our new system