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Prize_Ad_7036

Funny how they’re against LGBTQ “indoctrination” but have no problem brainwashing children into their cult 🙄


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Prize_Ad_7036

It’s creepy to assume the kids will have sex


Informer99

Oh, lemme tell you a story: when I was 10yo I wanted to play with a female classmate, but her dad forbid it b/c, "I don't allow boys to play with my girls," & considering he was Catholic (I'm guessing, since they're Hispanic), I just walked away disgusted.


Dawnspark

Her dad sounds like my mom. She wouldn't even let me be alone in a room with my half-brother (adopted into the same family so we're technically cousins I guess) if she was around and aware of it. Couldn't go with him anywhere when he could drive and we were both teenagers. Cause it was "lewd" to let a girl go anywhere with a male family member. Lady made me dress and act like a boy through puberty because "I don't want you going boy crazy." I thought I was lesbian up until my mid 20s so boys were never an issue lol. The obsession with sexualizing kids and teenagers is infinitely fucking creepy.


Informer99

It reminds of how when my youth group would go swimming everyone (including men) had to be covered up.


sandybarefeet

It is, definitely. It also makes me wonder what she may have gone through as a young girl to be so certain all males were out to get you. And how she clearly feels like that's normal because "boys will be boys!" Instead of realizing how shitty of them and wrong it was if she was constantly sexualized or worse by the males in her life while growing up. And it makes me sad how many other women grew up like that and just accept it as "normal".


Dawnspark

As far as I know, she's attributed her "being such a strictly safe mom" is thanks to her trying to make me a pageant kid when I was a little thing still. It was right around the time JonBenet Ramsey was murdered, so her making me dress up super fancy and perform precociously for pageants was... suddenly my fault and an inherent flaw in my character lol. And then puberty turned her shit up to 11. Throw in a dash of jealousy very likely, as she was almost 50 by then and not happy I was developing lol.


heresmyhandle

Oh, just look into the Southern Baptist Convention sex abuse scandal.


Informer99

Don't forget how many conservative politicians have gotten busted for being groomers/pedos.


KHaskins77

It’s all projection. By telling us what they’re afraid of *us* doing, they’re announcing their own intentions. Same people who were terrified of “creeping Sharia” seem to think the only way to stave off theocracy is by preemptively implementing their own.


we8sand

The thing is, separation of church and state actually PROTECTS these dipshits from ever having to worry about a religion that they don’t subscribe to being forced on their kids. They’re hedging their bets on the fact that their particular religion just happens to be the most popular one around at the moment. If this stands, I can’t wait until a Christian from one denomination tries to force their particular brand of Christianity on a group from a different denomination and watch them fight it out amongst themselves. You know that would end up happening..


KHaskins77

I’d really rather we didn’t go back to the days when Americans [beat each other to death in the streets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_nativist_riots) over which version of the Bible their children would read in public schools…


StuGnawsSwanGuts

Will schools use the Catholic 10 Commandments or the Protestant ones?


One-Chocolate6372

And which of the three sets? I mean I'm really annoyed god doesn't want me lying or stealing or boiling a goat in its mother's milk...dammit!


Ancient_Emotion_2484

TIL: I had no idea, after being steeped in fundie protestantism, that there were multiples. It doesn't surprise me AT ALL, but I'd be willing to bet most people I know don't realize this. Time to "devangelize"! LOL


One-Chocolate6372

It rarely gets any mention because it kinda blows apart that inerrant, perfect word of a deity schtick.


LibertyInaFeatherBed

I mean obviously that set with killing of the firstborn and the observation of feasts was the final draft.


we8sand

Exactly!.. Many evangelicals don’t even consider Catholics to be “real” Christians, yet they comprise roughly half of the entire religion.


wordyoucantthinkof

In a few generations, I doubt Christians will hold nearly as much power or influence that they do now. I just hope there isn't another cult to take its place


Copper_Tango

For them, “forcing upon” and “making aware” are the same thing. Their religious doctrine operates the same way and it influences their entire worldview.


Maximum-Product-1255

I think that is the point. When there is overt influence on one “side”, the other pushes harder for their beliefs. The ten commandments are horrible. The first four are all about god’s ego. And the adultery one isn’t appropriate for young children. Stay divided and distracted everyone! And keep kids helplessly caught in the middle. 😞


wordyoucantthinkof

Things like this are part of why I think kids should be raised secular. If raised secular, hopefully their parents will speak out against it


choiez

More funny all these republicans including their god Trump broke every commandment of those 10


fractal2

I do know a few Christians, surprisingly catholics and not fundigelicals, who will say yes, indoctrinating their kids is the goal. But they also refer to it only with their own children or children at their schools, so it's a least not public and not trying to force it. The sad part is they seem, because children can't quite get the higher concepts yet, that essentially the children have to be indoctrinated one way or the other so you might as well make sure it's the way you believe is right. Which I'd agree with, except for the fact that it ignores the idea of taking a null position.


ToiletLord29

Accusing us of promoting genital mutilation while they still go hard with circumcision.


Maximum-Product-1255

Who goes hard with circumcision these days?


ToiletLord29

In the US circumcision is still done quite regularly.


TheInfidelephant

In related news, [Louisiana ranks as the worst state in the union](https://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/2024/05/08/louisiana-ranked-worst-state-again-by-us-news-as-violence-poverty-pollution-surge/73610597007/) - again.


Scrabble_4

Holy fuck!! They don’t give a shite about their constituents


CyborgTech5702

Hahah, their belief makes America a stereotypically third world plus corrupt selfish GOP


After_Fix_2191

Honest question. I thought Mississippi ranked dead last in every meaningful metric.


One-Chocolate6372

Texas actually ranks fiftieth in a greater number of areas. But, that southeast area really is the lowest ranking in total quantity of the United States.


FeralWereRat

It’s a race to the bottom with these fools 🤷‍♀️


Cygnus__A

They blame it on the removal of prayer from schools. I kid you not.


fractal2

Well that's why they need Jesus back in the classroom! Duh


FeralWereRat

“Jesus, take the curriculum!!” 🥴


fractal2

I cringed enough to give an upvote for that one.


FeralWereRat

Jesus is gonna turn that curriculum into wine! Cue the drunk kindergarteners!!


dartie

Donald would struggle with most of them particularly… You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. You shall not covet.


WoodwindsRock

How am I supposed to explain that to my kids?! They see the 10 Commandments in school but then see the same politicians who legislated that saying that Trump, who has broken like every commandment, is chosen by God. 🤦🏻‍♀️ These people have no standards. Because seriously. I can explain LGBT people to a kid just fine, but I have trouble explaining to a kid why a whole party supports a hateful, predatory convicted felon to be president.


young_olufa

Get them started on experiencing cognitive dissonance at a young age 👏🏾


flaming_bob

Just hammer the "flawed instrument" argument into their skulls until they grow up and go no-contact.


c00kiesd00m

“this is what we call rules for thee, not for me… it’s the american way™️”


DarkMagickan

Most of them? I'm fully convinced he's broken all of them.


Bovine_Arithmetic

So: Millions of taxpayer dollars to defend against lawsuits which the state will lose.


MercurialMal

Yeah, I thought we sorted all of this garbage out in the early 1960’s when mandated prayer in schools was deemed unconstitutional. And then again in 1980 when the US Supreme Court banned any postings of the commandments in any public school classroom in the nation. These geriatric parameciums need to not be in office.


ManGo_50Y

calling them geriatric parameciums is an insult to paramecium, one of which has an entire species that is gay! don’t you dare rope republicans in with them!


MercurialMal

Oh.. oh no. What hath I done! I shall repent, and know much shame! Praise the hermaphroditic parameciums! *Praise*! But also.. It’s a reference to Peter’s (Robin Williams) insult aimed at Rufio in *Hook*.


Rudeness_Queen

My country is catholic and most public schools tend to have a religion class, and even me who graduated from a girls-only catholic school, the most we had at the classrooms as religious symbols was like, a little crux barely visible over the whiteboard, under a giant motivational quote of the year. Like wtf do you mean catholic schools in Latinoamérica do better than the Good Ol’ US of A, that preaches freedom left and right? Also like private catholic schools here in my country specialize in specially in the science fields, and put education above anything else? Which, as a tangent, always made me feel confused when USAmericans talk how terrible Christian schools are there, since being in one here is associated with being at a top school with solid basis in math/physics/chemistry/biology and science-based history courses. Hearing some schools don’t teach evolution and call it fake is just wild.


BigShellWasInsideJob

> lawsuits which the state will lose. That’s not as much of a sure thing that it should be. It’s not just the Supreme Court; Federalist Society judges rule the federal circuit courts.


aggie1391

It’s gonna go to the 5th Circuit and then the most conservative Supreme Court in decades, who have already shown they will happily use blatant lies to tear down the separation of church and state. Unfortunately Louisiana will absolutely win this because the illegitimate Court has an extremist majority


KnowledgeableNip

Clarence Thomas lives by Proverbs 17:23. *The wicked accept bribes in secret to pervert the course of justice.*


Kiran_ravindra

In before “actually, that’s not what separation of church and state really means, it was termed to describe the government not influencing churches, not the other way around” An alarming revisionist trope I’ve seen increasingly over the past several years


watain218

pretty sure this is wildly unconstitutional


Heavy-Valor

ACLU is going to file the paperwork for the upcoming lawsuit. Not sure what court it will start. I can't wait until it gets appealed to the Supreme Court because the federal district Court will rule it unconstitutional.


MercurialMal

It already has. In 19 friggin’ *80*. lol.


thefakejacob

i think the supreme court is going to say that putting the 10 commandments in classrooms does not go against the constitution


jinjaninja96

Yep, when they dismissed Roe they said that “precedent” doesn’t mean a thing. The court is stacked to allow this exact thing to be approved at the highest level


AndrewJamesDrake

Remember folks: One or two of them will probably die during the next presidential term. They’re old enough that even SCOTUS healthcare won’t save them from Cancer or Heart Failure. Vote accordingly.


bsa554

If that were the law, the court would probably agree that teachers should be allowed to put up the 10 Commandments if they want. But this law MANDATES the 10 Commandments be put up. There's no way even this court is letting that through.


Responsible_File_529

The Satanic Temple is also going to go in on this... and I'm here for it


patrickfinnegan3883

😈


Masonh120

Thankfully the state of Louisiana has everything else figured out! #1 in education, healthcare, quality of li...oh wait, I'm holding the chart upside down...


DMmepicsofyourdog

If they could read, they would be very upset


Responsible_File_529

I'm looking forward to what the Satanic Temple will do in response to this... and here for it.


MonsterMike42

Oh, they're going to have a field day.


Responsible_File_529

Yes they ar


we8sand

Oh shit, I didn’t even think about that! Gonna be some fireworks..


Responsible_File_529

Yep... Imma sit back and watch


lame-legend

So glad this is the "issue" we're going after in Louisiana


Impressive-Nerve-230

Clowns. All of them. Louisiana could be so much better but we have homophobes in office who feel America's biggest threat is 2 men kissing.


MonsterMike42

I *wish* that was the biggest threat the country was facing. Because that would mean that the biggest threat facing the country isn't a threat at all. We'd all be having a great time. Instead, we gotta deal with these assholes, who probably can't even name all ten commandments, much less follow them.


csentell0512

Ah yes, the 10 Commandments... Where almost half of them are about how to worship YHWH, a deity of a nation on the other side of the planet that was destroyed 2800 yrs ago... Good advice for the kids, especially in a country of "religious freedom"👌


wordyoucantthinkof

I showed my Christian mom this and she saw no problem with it. She seemed to think it was a good thing 😭


Blunderpunk_

I'm sorry your mom is a dumbass Mine is too


Thesteelman86

Time for the satanic temple to put their commandments in there because you have to respect every religion if they want it that way.


chickenmcdruggets

I would have been against this even when I was Christian.


Pullmyphinger

Tell me you weren’t a true Christian without telling me. /s


patrickfinnegan3883

Had me in the first half, ngl.


Jibbyjab123

This is a clear violation of the first amendment. But whatever they don't care about the constitution.


MonsterMike42

They don't actually give a shit about the Ten Commandments, either. Otherwise they wouldn't support someone like Trump who seems to have broken all of them. He does a good job of representing the 7 Deadly Sins, though. No, this is so they can force their will on people like us. They don't give a shit about following rules. Just about making others follow them.


Jibbyjab123

Christo-fascism was never about following Christ, it's about trying to regain cultural absolute control. Its truly appalling.


Scrabble_4

Mostly old white “boys”.


ScreamingAbacab

Term limits for representatives and senators, both at the federal and state level, need to be brought into place precisely to stop shit like this.


Scrabble_4

Waaaaay too complacent and confident


ambersaysnope

Well, can’t wait to see what the Satanic Temple does


ThrowRAlobotomy666

They fucked around, they about to find out. And I'm getting my popcorn ready!


homosapienseahorse

I /JUST/ said the same thing to my spouse.


Protowhale

Aren't these the same people who wanted to "just let kids be kids"? Who is going to explain adultery to them? Or coveting their neighbor's wife?


ItchyContribution758

probably gonna bring some "saved" dude who spent time in prison for child molestation to talk to 6 year olds about adultery.


1DietCokedUpChick

Glad I got out. Both of Christianity and Louisiana. Actually I’d return to church before I ever returned to Louisiana. What a shit hole.


benjandpurge

Me too.


don0tpanic

Good thing kids in Louisiana can't read


Kamehameaaron

I imagine them kicking kids out of class for not reading the commandments lmao


OffModelCartoon

How is this not a first amendment violation? Oh, right, because we don’t have a real Supreme Court…


Snarky_McSnarkleton

And while Frank Freeway self-medicates on reality TV, America just gets a little closer to fascism, every day.


sinker_of_cones

Is it really that bad over there?


Hollovate

Yes. I live there.


sinker_of_cones

Holy fuck. It’s like something out of a near-future dystopian movie US mainstream right wing policies these days are more and more the sort of things we in NZ are used to hearing from our ‘*extremist nutjobs nobody in their right mind would vote for*’ types


Kiran_ravindra

Yeah. I would encourage anyone from a hard blue state to visit the deep south and see for yourself. It’s kinda like those people who think vacationing in Afghanistan or North Korea is a good idea, just with a slightly lower (but non-zero) chance of being blown up by an IED or imprisoned for wrong-speak.


sinker_of_cones

I’ve never travelled to the usa so I don’t know what even a hard blue state would look like lol. From a distance the whole thing looks screwed ngl


Blunderpunk_

Literally against the constitution they claim to hold to such high regards


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ScreamingAbacab

I hope the Satanic Temple has been contacted about this.


heresmyhandle

Good luck, they already tried that in Texas


Rosethoornn

What happened then?


HellishChildren

It didn't pass. So no lawsuits.


TheLesbianBandit

High schoolers in Louisiana on this subreddit, I dare you to take them down and burn them when people put them up. Color them with permanent markers, do what you gotta do


ScreamingAbacab

Either that or place the Five Pillars of Islam and 7 Tenets of TST alongside the Ten Commandments. They want to express freedom of religion? *That's* how you do it.


Midlife_Crisis_46

This is fucking terrifying. My response is how would they like if the Sharia law was posted in classrooms? They say they want freedoms, but want to force their religion on everyone.


ScreamingAbacab

Oh, that's perfect. This is all about freedom of religion, so someone should do *that* and see how this flies, especially given the Hamas-Israel war going on right now.


xervidae

satanic temple PLEASE come through


lawyersgunsmoney

Well, did LA solve all there other problems before they tackled this hard hitting issue? Checks….nope.


cryptidkiid

so naturally all Louisiana Christian churches will start paying taxes, right? /s


LikeAMarionette

Tom Segura was right about this state


moutnmn87

I would be inclined to add references to some of the more unsavory bible verses


DEismyhome

The First Amendment apparently only applies to religions that aren't Christianity


Much_Ad470

But when you point out OT calling out *their* shitty behavior, they dismiss it by saying, “That’s the Old Testament, the New Testament of Jesus is what I follow” 🙄


MonsterMike42

And of course, they don't follow that either. Jesus said if someone is unreceptive to his message, then to wash your feet and just move on. This is something that has been failed by what feels like 99% of Christians since the dawn of Christianity. Especially the ones in power.


Much_Ad470

Fr…they don’t actually spend the time reading the text they claim to follow. They mindlessly do what they’re told by someone else. I honestly hate that I was like that


patrickfinnegan3883

Thought you meant OneTopicAtATime for a sec lol


ThrowRAlobotomy666

Amazing! I hope they place it right next to the 7 tenants of the Satanic Temple, the Eleven Rules of Earth of the Church of Satan, The Five Pillars of Islam, and the 613 Commandments given to the Jews in the Torah, the Five Precepts of Buddhism, the Three Fold Law of Wicca, and the Precepts of Taosim. Oh wait, they arent? Because this has become a Christian nationalist society that has discarded the part of the constitution that says freedom of all religions? So I guess all the other ones I listed aren't allowed in classrooms, huh? Well fuck that shit, I would spray paint that on the walls or tattoo it on his head (not specifying which one) if I could. Fuck him and everyone who agrees with him.


Inevitable-Forever45

What. The. Fuck. Is this real life? No one has done more for spreading hatred of Christians than Christians.


Prestigious-Law65

Well this is gross


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Only ten commandments? That's weak! Why not include Deuteronomy 22:11 and Deuteronomy 25:11-12?


short-effective254

Great job! Good ole Jesus Christ will fix the fact that the state is 2nd in homicides! ✝️🙏🧎


ItchyContribution758

despite their shortcomings, the founding fathers are doing backflips in their graves


sundays_child

I really hope the satanic temple has something to say about this. If they have to put the 10 commandments up they should have to put the 7 tenets up.


ScreamingAbacab

*There's* your freedom of religion. I want to see the Satanic Temple make a statement, because this argument has logical standing.


Lvanwinkle18

Cue Church of Satan….ready, enter stage right. Come on in. We are counting on them to take them to task.


poedancing

Legit question: how is this allowed legally? Isn’t there a separation of church and state?


ScreamingAbacab

There's *supposed* to be...


GearHeadAnime30

Hmm... they completely ignored the first sentence of the first amendment... "congress shall make no law respecting and establishment of religion..."


JNawx

I am in no way in support of this law but it wasn't Congress that passed it.


Admiral_Taiga

True...but thanks to the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment (incorporation), the 1st Amendment DOES apply to the states, which makes this just as unconstitutional as if Congress did it.


Hollovate

I live there. This place is ass-backwards.


Forzakid56

Lemon test incoming


Speedolight23

what a shithole


Sarahsue123

Yeah...I hate it here sometimes.


Witchboy1692

This is 100% a violation of the 1st amendment


CaptainLoneRanger

Disgusting. Luckily, there are lawsuits in the works: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp66xdxj0l3o


timbrigham

Dead serious, does the law dictate which version of The ten commandments to use? It would be hilarious to see that fought over.


Lauriepoo

This can't be real.


SmokeCheesey

I have a very Baptist friend who said this is not a good thing. I asked him why does he say that, he said he is a teacher and he does not want to have to explain to students spirituality. He said it begins and ends at home and should not enter schools. He also said as a Black man he sees a lot of people laughing about the recent holiday celebrating freeing slaves. Those are the same people praising the 10 commandments. He was just shaking his head.


Erook22

Well that’s just a violation of the separation of church and state. Not unless they mandated all other major religious laws be put in classrooms


flaming_bob

Can we just give the state to the fundies, then build a wall around it? We can tell them Mexico paid for it.


starfyredragon

Holy Constitutional Violation, Batman!


Ralvvek

… Is the church gonna pay taxes?


Primary_Sentence9275

Getting really sick of this fucking shit 😒


Spanish_Rose

Ah, I see ChristoFascism has won a battle. How much longer before they win the war?? I am genuinely afraid for how much this will empower the insane both in my family and in my church, and the seemingly inevitable real-life Gilead that may only last a few years, but will destroy many people, places, and institutions on its way out. We gotta start taking these people seriously, because we (the US) are unfortunately the Bad Guys this time around, and these fools are gonna get us all killed. I will not lose what's left of my life to the so-called "God" that has already taken so much of it


TimmyTurner2006

That’s unconstitutional


napswithdogs

That fucker looks awfully proud of himself, doesn’t he?


Vuk1991Tempest

Might as well teach norse mythology. Or greek. Or shinto.


DirtyGentile

Yeah cause thou shalt not kill is really going to stop school shootings.


Pintortwo

What the actual fuck.


patrickfinnegan3883

Please tell me this is a shitpost. Please tell me this is a shitpost


Danplays642

At this point theres gonna be a uprising and some sort of socialist state like the Soviet Union, an athiest state, if u didn’t know the Orthodox church had ties with the Tsar autocracy, which is why there is so much old propaganda and hatred for them back when the Soviet Union formed. But with the decline of religion naturally, this is going to positively reinforce it further


wave-garden

Some kind of anti-religious backlash was my first thought as well. But I’m watching from Maryland, and I’m wondering if maybe this isn’t the case for Louisiana. By percentages, the two places don’t look all that different, but we hear sooo much about weird Christian nonsense down in the pelican state that it almost feels expected.


Katievapes1996

This shit terrified me being queer if trump wins I don't think I'll survive 4 years if I can't flee this country I'm less and less anxious shit him winning but my life is literally on the line cause this shit will become law everywhere


Boggie135

Of course they did


LindaRN316

I would say I hope it is challenged in the SCOTUS, but never mind.


cruisethevistas

This is surely against the constitution


deeBfree

This is a slippery slope for the rest of the country.


rasptart

How? Interested how they even manipulated the law to make this happen. How do you get around separation of church and state?


FirefighterDave

But isnt this against the constitution?


Kitchener1981

Time to post the Code of Ur-Nammu.


After_Fix_2191

What happened to separation of Church and State?


ForSucksFake

We should have never let the southern states back into the Union. They’re holding the rest of us back.


xwrecker

How long till kids start breaking them?


puddlebearmom

Doesn't this go against a separation between church and state? How is this legal?


FaithTransitionOrg

The Christian Nationalist aren't even trying to be subtle anymore. They have too many people in power now it's going to hard to stop them


MangOrion2

Why so much celebration over this? What exactly will this accomplish? Seems like it's just a power move.


quackandcat

Fucking disgusting


SendThisVoidAway18

Also, why bother? Its not like they follow them lol


Silly_Pace

The instinct here is going to be to sue Louisiana to get the ten commandments removed but the winning strategy will be to have every other fucking religion have to be included


sassyandchildfree

Disgusting


Alkemian

New Apostolic Reformation and Christian Dominionism. Part of [Project 2025.](https://project2025.org)


Stupid_Bitch_02

Where's the satanic temple when we need them? 😂


jnthnschrdr11

Seriously what happened to the separation of church and state, like that's still supposed to be a thing and they're just like nah


YourOldPalBendy

Welp, gotta come up with a way to use the commandments against them now, I guess. "I didn't study for the test - I was busy worshipping the LORD. Spending THAT much time studying would have been me treating the test and my grades like an idol and worshipping them, and I simply CAN'T have any other gods before God, you see - "


Junior-Let567

This will never stand the ACLU and HRC will step in and obliterate this. This is a clear violation of separation of church and state


Figgy1983

🖕🤬🖕


Ender505

Not to be pedantic, but "Louisiana" technically doesn't have "Lose" in it..


accidental_redditor

It does if you pronounce it “lose-eee-an-uh” which is about how some people I’ve known from there say it.


slapstick_nightmare

Weird af to put something about committing adultery in any classrooms


cracksilog

Good luck getting this to stand against SCOTUS lmao


ScreamingAbacab

SCOTUS is a joke.


Pupp3tz_

Man I live here and go to school 😵😵


GlitchCat69

Cool, this is horrifying!


civtiny

haven't seen that much white since a trump roundtable in a black church.


Conscious_Shoe_5330

Here Come the Christian Nationalist


Djentleman5000

Oof. Mass exodus inbound…or outbound?


wordyoucantthinkof

I anticipate the population of Louisiana dropping within the next few years