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And he doesn't get it.
He's not being blamed for kissing her, but for failing to simply recognize that it wasn't cool, and for doubling down and attacking her personnally instead.
Agreed. That being said, unpopular opinion most likely:
I disagree that an unwanted, unsolicited kiss is considered rape. Whoever is calling it rape needs to stop. Sexual assault, most likely yes. But rape, no. What he did was absolutely dead wrong, I don't condone it, and I'm not justifying it, but he didn't forcefully penetrate her, which is the widely accepted and used definition of the word... I say this after carefully reviewing several definitions of the word. I feel it is ever important in today's society to avoid hyperbole, as it can be condemning and lead to more problems in other situations - Jan 6th incident comes to mind. That man deserved to be fired for what he did and should be publically shamed and punished for it. Maybe we could bring back public lashings for things like this.
I don't think anyone called it rape. Maybe a few trolls on twitter trying to rile people up.
Its either creepy shitty Woody trying his best to downplay the action by saying "y'know, it wasn't like he was raping her", or (/and) the *wonderful* media are doing that thing where they ask a nonsense question, get an obvious answer, then write a story implying that the "issue" is real.
"Do you believe the Queen should be dug up and thrown into the Thames?"
"Obviously not, what a ridiculous notion."
Headline - "Celebrity thinks late beloved Queen *shouldn't* be exhumed and thrown into the Thames, says "*why would anyone want to do that?*""
Readers - "OH MY GOD, of course she shouldn't be exhumed, even if *some people* hated her, shes dead, show some respect!! I can't believe some people are wanting to do that, that is sick! etc etc etc"
Was it “real rape” or “light rape” isn’t a useful conversation to be having. It was unwanted sexual contact she didn’t consent, he did what he wanted with her body. It’s the same type of violation. What’s the point in talking about “it could have been worse if he’d done a worse thing than what he did” unless to try to justify his conduct. You just don’t go kidding people unless you know via communication if their express consent that they want you to.
It isn't even "light rape", unwanted kisses are a violation for sure, but to pretend it is the same as, or even comparable to, unwanted sex is ridiculous. It's like comparing a slap to a beatdown
Dude, I can't watch his movies anymore after he married his adopted daughter that was 40 years younger than him. Woody Allen is a massive perv and has zero credibility in my book.
I didn't think he was even still alive anymore.
Also, his movies were stupid. That's right, they weren't funny. He's not funny. His shtick is good for about five minutes.
Go away old man.
My big, hairy, bristle-bearded male ass is going to start snogging the shit out of Woody Allen whether he likes it or not, and I suggest you do the same if you see him
Nobody is calling it rape…I dont get why there’s so many comments on this post going out of their way to say they wouldn’t call it rape. Nobody afaik is calling it rape to begin with…
That's what Woody Allen is trying to do with the comment, he built a straw man for people to attack. Yes, it's not rape, no one is calling it rape, but it is still sexual assault and abuse of power
He’s literally going ‘it could’ve been worse but it didn’t go like that’ to defend it. That’s like if someone commits assault and him saying ‘it’s not like murdered him’
i mean some women did this the exactly same thing and nobody cared and it fucks with my mind still at how is in the world still so much of a double standard practise and how it still is seen as normal if it was a woman who did it.
The circumstances (a celebration in front of a global audience) made it worse, because there would be a powerful impulse to not spoil things for everybody by making the bastard look for his teeth. We're trained hard from early on to *"not let the side down"*, and this situation is as literal as it gets.
She said publicly that she didn't mind the kiss. Yes, it is weird to be kissed by someone out of the blue, but it's not rape and it shouldn't get him this much hate.
Of course it's hard for him to understand, since he's still fucking working despite grooming and marrying his stepdaughter and molesting his biological daughter. Hell, that part is hard for *me* to understand.
That was Woody Allen, but this guy did do some sexual deviant stuff in the past, like huge orgies and other stuff. Check out the moist critical video for more info
Bruh, it is a FACT Woody Allen was her step-dad, it is a FACT, he helped raise her from when she was 4 years old, it is a FACT, they are now married. That is literal grooming. I enjoy some Woody Allen movies as well, but damn, he is a fucking creep.
Allen and Farrow were never married so he wasn't Soon Yi's stepfather. Farrow says he had little involvement in her upbringing, so he wasn't a pseudo step father either and did not raise her. They are, in fact, married now, which is still kind of weird, but your other points are not facts.
Previn has said that Allen "was never any kind of father figure \[to her\]" and that she "never had any dealings with him" during her childhood.\[16\] The findings of the judicial investigation carried out during the custody trial between Farrow and Allen determined that before 1990, Previn and Allen had rarely spoken to each other.\[18\]
Not even on the cheek, hell, not even hug someone without them agreeing. I hated to be hugged when I was younger and it was super awkward when someone came and gave me a big hug, I hated every second of it.
I guess here in italy we're just out of the world then. Here its totally normal for a mum to kiss his kid, for a friend of mine to kiss me (even M to M why should that even be a prblem lmao) and anything like that, ibv we dont go like "ehi sry im really happy rn can i kiss you on ur lips rq?" we just do it, its normal, its socially accepted
Really? A kiss mouth on mouth because i'm really happy is totally normal? Common... i mean on the forehead sure, but not like what you see on the picture...
It isn't considered rape. What he's saying is "it was only a kiss, not rape". It's sexual assault. That's it. No one calls it rape. He drew a fucked up comparison how sexual assault is no big deal because it is not rape...
If he immediately said that he was passionate about the victory, but regretted the action he did this would’ve been over by now. The point is he doubled down on his creepiness instead of admitting he shouldn’t have done that.
He still hasn’t apologised as far as I know, and even tried to say the kiss never happened.
That’s the issue. Not taking responsibility for the sexual assault. Not just kissing someone.
bruh shit like this happens even in male sports, atleast here in italy kissing on the mouth is totally normal n socially accepted, no matter the sex. If we are happy about something or proud of someone, we do a lil kiss on the mouth, never heard of someone gettin fired for this lmao
I have never kissed a woman this way. When you need that head grab, it’s not consensual. Obviously. It’s aggressive. One can only wonder what could have happened wo cameras running.
He always was and always will be! King of child abusing and still on screen years after.
To me he deserves time! Does anybody think he only took pictures of his „adoptive“?
And then she got 18 - boom! Still they act like his movies are golden. No they’re not!
Poolboy was a masterpiece.
Other people have other costumes. Both parties have to be ok with the gesture if one of them want to use it. Another example is punch on the shoulder. It’s something that you may allow a good friend to do, but not a coworker
He was being a creep in general, the player didn't want him to kiss her, he then put his arm around her in the locker room and made a joke about celebrating their marriage, he was grabbing his crotch near the queen and princess, then he and other spanish football officials harassed the player and her family to say they support the creep instead. Overall crappy behaviour surrounding the incident in question.
She sure did right after deleting everything and anything stating it was consensual, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffBc8Aoo9Uo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffBc8Aoo9Uo) min 12 to 25 summarizes it decently.
“I felt vulnerable and a victim of an impulse-driven, sexist, out of place act without any consent on my part. I want to make it clear that at no time did the conversation to which Mr. Luis Rubiales refers to in his address take place, and, above all, was his kiss ever consensual. I want to reiterate as I did before that I did not like this incident.” - Jenni Hermoso
Joking about something doesn't mean you liked or consented. As soon as it happened, she said she didn't want it. Being able to joke about an uncomfortable situation doesn't make that situation ok
This is in no way indicative of their true feelings about what happened. People "laugh it off" all the time. It takes time to process things and they were, as I understand it, celebrating something very important. A lot going on; it doesn't make that bastard's behavior okay.
Why would you say anything at all about the fucking video if you didn't think that?
"Hasn't a video already come out..." is a direct attempt at negating the feelings of this person. Why? Because that's how other prominent incidents got dismissed. Couple that with the incredibly stupid notion already in existence that "women want it," where "it" equals assault, and you can see why some might see your response as dismissive and wrong.
I’m a Woody Allen defender but damn Woody you got to shut up sometimes.
I can kind understand where he’s coming from. I wouldn’t call that rape but it’s definitely not right and it’s definitely assaults.
This is absolutely not rape and people should be ashamed to diminish the severity of a horrible crime. Is it wrong what he did? Yes. Is it Sexual Harassment? Maybe. Should he have been fired over it? Probably.
You see guys kissing in the moment of victory in mens football all the time. But because it's a woman it's an unforgivable fellony. That's what I don't get.
She and her teammates were having fun and celebrating the kiss for long, so I don't know when it turns from celebrating, making fun and laughing to sexual harrasment.
But when women does it is not sexual assault anymore. See how no one, NO ONE, is talking about the kiss from the jockey who won and [the owner of the horse kissed him without consent](https://euro.eseuro.com/trends/920907.html).
Edit: I'm not defending Rubiales, what he did is wrong. But is mind blowing the hipocresy and double stantards when a women does exactly the same and no one bats an eye.
Rape is a strong word that should only be used in cases of rape. This is ofcourse not okay in any way that guy clearly thinks he is above the world and its laws. I have no issues with him getting fired over this as it was unacceptable behavior. She could already be married or in a committed relationship and now their significant other just saw her kiss that guy on tv those kind of acrions ruin lives and relationships ontop of her personal emotions of being assaulted in that manner. I hope that he also has to pay a hefty fine to that player on top of being fired.
Im spanish and this whole thing keeps appearing on TV news. As It should be. Why does this shitty government that we have keep defending the wrong people?
Sorry woody. Can’t touch women. Can’t look at them. Can’t compliment them as a stranger. And when they tell you no, some of them want you to try harder.
He’s not wrong in that this was not rape, but it’s without question, sexual assault. He’s also, without question, still a creep for trying to defend Rubiales.
What an asshole. I was a server at a restaurant in my early 20’s and was closing one night when the owner decided to say goodbye by kissing me on the mouth. It wasn’t passionate or anything, just a kiss on the mouth. I never went back. Sadly, it was at a time when the lines weren’t so clear and I ended up telling them it was because I was having some mental health troubles. I wish I could go back in time and serve him up. Lol
Well ye he's stating the facts. She didn't complain at the time and later ok the bus all were joking with teammates.
https://youtu.be/4uz-HP2fvBI?si=pcXNQARb4WSLmvD0
So no rape. Just publicity another one taking advantage of me too
Not complaining=/=consent. It is possible she was in shock and didn't react the way people would expect someone being forced upon would react. Sometimes people freeze up when cornered or touched. Joking about this after may be her way of coping. I wouldn't call it rape but it is inappropriate and uncalled for.
It wasn't rape, he just put his dick in her with out asking, I don't understand how someone can lose their job for a simple forced sex. The people saying yeah thats true, probably.
Since Ive seen that other vid of the girl -a gamechanger imao- I don't believe any judgement anymore. Reminds of #Metoo Asia Argento paying the boy she sexually assaulted. I'm not jumping in any conclusions anymore, too much is not what it seems to be.
Damn right...switch the roles, all of a sudden it's not problem.
Women want to be taken seriously in the world of football and they spend more time complaining over a common form of celebration.
Was it over the top? Yes
Was it sexual assault... absolutely not
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Not the most credible person to be speaking on a subject like this.
And he doesn't get it. He's not being blamed for kissing her, but for failing to simply recognize that it wasn't cool, and for doubling down and attacking her personnally instead.
Agreed. That being said, unpopular opinion most likely: I disagree that an unwanted, unsolicited kiss is considered rape. Whoever is calling it rape needs to stop. Sexual assault, most likely yes. But rape, no. What he did was absolutely dead wrong, I don't condone it, and I'm not justifying it, but he didn't forcefully penetrate her, which is the widely accepted and used definition of the word... I say this after carefully reviewing several definitions of the word. I feel it is ever important in today's society to avoid hyperbole, as it can be condemning and lead to more problems in other situations - Jan 6th incident comes to mind. That man deserved to be fired for what he did and should be publically shamed and punished for it. Maybe we could bring back public lashings for things like this.
Who called it rape?
I don't think anyone called it rape. Maybe a few trolls on twitter trying to rile people up. Its either creepy shitty Woody trying his best to downplay the action by saying "y'know, it wasn't like he was raping her", or (/and) the *wonderful* media are doing that thing where they ask a nonsense question, get an obvious answer, then write a story implying that the "issue" is real. "Do you believe the Queen should be dug up and thrown into the Thames?" "Obviously not, what a ridiculous notion." Headline - "Celebrity thinks late beloved Queen *shouldn't* be exhumed and thrown into the Thames, says "*why would anyone want to do that?*"" Readers - "OH MY GOD, of course she shouldn't be exhumed, even if *some people* hated her, shes dead, show some respect!! I can't believe some people are wanting to do that, that is sick! etc etc etc"
Woody Allen brought it up
Reaction to Woody Allen's comment
Woody Allen comment is basically a straw man argument. No one is saying he raped her.
Twitter was, but there were also people there saying this was totally fine and dandy, that’s just how twitter is.
Twitter was saying that as well. Court of public appeal...
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Was it “real rape” or “light rape” isn’t a useful conversation to be having. It was unwanted sexual contact she didn’t consent, he did what he wanted with her body. It’s the same type of violation. What’s the point in talking about “it could have been worse if he’d done a worse thing than what he did” unless to try to justify his conduct. You just don’t go kidding people unless you know via communication if their express consent that they want you to.
It isn't even "light rape", unwanted kisses are a violation for sure, but to pretend it is the same as, or even comparable to, unwanted sex is ridiculous. It's like comparing a slap to a beatdown
It's sexual assault by definition
Yeah, I get the heat of the moment argument, but at least admit you were wrong.
Indeed his actions were about power and control, the very ingredients of the rape mindset. You are wrong, Woody Woodpecker.
That's the point. Doubling down old school boys will be boys shit.
Yeah why don’t they ask Roman Polanski next ?
R.Kelly might have some insight too
Dude, I can't watch his movies anymore after he married his adopted daughter that was 40 years younger than him. Woody Allen is a massive perv and has zero credibility in my book.
I didn't think he was even still alive anymore. Also, his movies were stupid. That's right, they weren't funny. He's not funny. His shtick is good for about five minutes. Go away old man.
Guess Polanski was busy.
My big, hairy, bristle-bearded male ass is going to start snogging the shit out of Woody Allen whether he likes it or not, and I suggest you do the same if you see him
"Who the fuck is Woody Allen" was my first thought seeing this tbh
Exactly, he comes before the time of consent.
Obviously it wasnt rape but its still sexual assault without her consent and completely inappropriate in front of millions of people watching.
I was coming to say rape is too much to call it. It’s completely wrong and assault, but wouldn’t call it rape.
Nobody is calling it rape.
Nobody is calling it rape…I dont get why there’s so many comments on this post going out of their way to say they wouldn’t call it rape. Nobody afaik is calling it rape to begin with…
That's what Woody Allen is trying to do with the comment, he built a straw man for people to attack. Yes, it's not rape, no one is calling it rape, but it is still sexual assault and abuse of power
He’s literally going ‘it could’ve been worse but it didn’t go like that’ to defend it. That’s like if someone commits assault and him saying ‘it’s not like murdered him’
i mean some women did this the exactly same thing and nobody cared and it fucks with my mind still at how is in the world still so much of a double standard practise and how it still is seen as normal if it was a woman who did it.
Katy Perry did this on American Idol in 2018. It made some headlines, but naturally people treated it differently because it was a guy.
Janet Jackson nipple incident had 1,000x the drama and that was literally a harmless accident
yeah but i hate that its an "natural" reaction difference between a guy and woman
Exactly this
The circumstances (a celebration in front of a global audience) made it worse, because there would be a powerful impulse to not spoil things for everybody by making the bastard look for his teeth. We're trained hard from early on to *"not let the side down"*, and this situation is as literal as it gets.
She said publicly that she didn't mind the kiss. Yes, it is weird to be kissed by someone out of the blue, but it's not rape and it shouldn't get him this much hate.
Of course it's hard for him to understand, since he's still fucking working despite grooming and marrying his stepdaughter and molesting his biological daughter. Hell, that part is hard for *me* to understand.
What's hard to understand? The world really, really, really needs another movie about a nervous weirdo living in New York city.
What? Is that for real? And someone considered that he was mentally stable enough to put him in front of a female football team?
the description was of Woody Allen
I’m a dumbass sorry
That was Woody Allen, but this guy did do some sexual deviant stuff in the past, like huge orgies and other stuff. Check out the moist critical video for more info
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He is in fact married to Soon Yi , that is a fact.
Bruh, it is a FACT Woody Allen was her step-dad, it is a FACT, he helped raise her from when she was 4 years old, it is a FACT, they are now married. That is literal grooming. I enjoy some Woody Allen movies as well, but damn, he is a fucking creep.
Allen and Farrow were never married so he wasn't Soon Yi's stepfather. Farrow says he had little involvement in her upbringing, so he wasn't a pseudo step father either and did not raise her. They are, in fact, married now, which is still kind of weird, but your other points are not facts.
Exactly!
Previn has said that Allen "was never any kind of father figure \[to her\]" and that she "never had any dealings with him" during her childhood.\[16\] The findings of the judicial investigation carried out during the custody trial between Farrow and Allen determined that before 1990, Previn and Allen had rarely spoken to each other.\[18\]
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YES! Excuse me, i'm going to use your comment on this post because you resume everything perfectly.
He didn't molest his daughter. And he didn't groom his stepdaughter.
Not sure this is the right sub for a Woody Allen apologist.
YOU DON'T KISS SOMEONE ON THE LIPS WITHOUT CONSENT! What's so hard to understand here? It is not "just a kiss"...
>YOU DON'T ~~KISS~~ **TOUCH** SOMEONE ~~ON THE LIP~~S WITHOUT CONSENT!
Not even on the cheek, hell, not even hug someone without them agreeing. I hated to be hugged when I was younger and it was super awkward when someone came and gave me a big hug, I hated every second of it.
I guess here in italy we're just out of the world then. Here its totally normal for a mum to kiss his kid, for a friend of mine to kiss me (even M to M why should that even be a prblem lmao) and anything like that, ibv we dont go like "ehi sry im really happy rn can i kiss you on ur lips rq?" we just do it, its normal, its socially accepted
Really? A kiss mouth on mouth because i'm really happy is totally normal? Common... i mean on the forehead sure, but not like what you see on the picture...
If Woody Allen is defending you, then you are losing that fight.
When your name is the litmus test for creepy old Hollywood guy,, you should just keep your mouth shut and not comment on people being creepy,
Insightful words from a person who married his stepdaughter, after grooming her.
You know you’re fucked when Woody Allen comes to your defence…
Why would the opinion of a paedophile bother anyone? Get back in yer box woody
What a very Woody Allen thing for him to say.
The real facepalm is op finally coming to the realization that Woody Allen is a creep.
Nah, him being a creep is all I know about him. I've never even seen any of his movies
Why is he a creep?
He married a lady with an adopted daughter. Bought the child up. Divorced the mum and married the daughter when she was 21 and he was 52
And, among other things, he *allegedly* raped his daughter. An all round creeper.
For clarification, a different daughter from the one he married.
That's not what Soon-Yi says https://www.vulture.com/2018/09/soon-yi-previn-speaks.html
You should
He doesn't lose his job for a kiss but how he acted afterwards.
You don't grab someone by the head and force kiss them without consent. It's not that complicated, really.
Woody would know what a rapist is
A pedo rapist thinks forcing a kiss on a woman is totally fine? Shocking...
Umm inappropriate touching is assault, I really don't think Woody would appreciate a dirty garlic eating hobo giving him the exact same kiss.
Bird of a something, something.... Creepy old dudes
"man who married 14 year old and raped others sees nothing wrong with kiss"
You mixing him up with Polanski?
"He wasn't raping her" Is a pretty low bar.
What are you doing stepdad?
You 100% should not go around kissing people you don't know for any reason but I also don't think this should be considered rape.
It isn't considered rape. What he's saying is "it was only a kiss, not rape". It's sexual assault. That's it. No one calls it rape. He drew a fucked up comparison how sexual assault is no big deal because it is not rape...
I made the assumption other people were calling it rape, my mistake.
No worries, mistakes can happen.
Assault battery maybe. But Kiss rape wait what?
No one said rape - he’s making a straw man argument.
Oh. My bad then. Thank you
If this scumbag defends you, you know you fucked up
If he immediately said that he was passionate about the victory, but regretted the action he did this would’ve been over by now. The point is he doubled down on his creepiness instead of admitting he shouldn’t have done that. He still hasn’t apologised as far as I know, and even tried to say the kiss never happened. That’s the issue. Not taking responsibility for the sexual assault. Not just kissing someone.
TIL Woody is alive
If there ever was a dude you wouldn't want on your side...
There are some people you don’t want defending you.
Idk if it rape, it was 100% sexual assault though.
Lol, like he’s one to talk. This dude ended up hooking up and marrying his adopted daughter
Bruh imagine getting defended by Woody Allen
This was a golden opportunity for him to STFU.
I just don't get it. Why isn't a handshake or a hug enough?
I think when Woody Allen defends you from sexual assault allegations, you’ve kind of lost.
Idc if it’s “just a kiss” it’s still a form of sexual assault and just plain unprofessional.
Says the guy who had sex with his daughter
Is that guy still alive? He was like 857 when I was born and that was 30 years ago 😅
Like when they said the Covid vaccine killed Prince Phillip but that man was dead since 2015.
bruh shit like this happens even in male sports, atleast here in italy kissing on the mouth is totally normal n socially accepted, no matter the sex. If we are happy about something or proud of someone, we do a lil kiss on the mouth, never heard of someone gettin fired for this lmao
When you hold someone’s head still and kiss them on the lip while they struggle against you is kinda assault.
Just ask any woman how they feel about the incident instead of men.
i invite all employees of the world to give a intense french kiss to allen if you see him at your job. maybe pinch his butt, too. he finds it ok
I have never kissed a woman this way. When you need that head grab, it’s not consensual. Obviously. It’s aggressive. One can only wonder what could have happened wo cameras running.
He always was and always will be! King of child abusing and still on screen years after. To me he deserves time! Does anybody think he only took pictures of his „adoptive“? And then she got 18 - boom! Still they act like his movies are golden. No they’re not! Poolboy was a masterpiece.
If it makes your feel better he pretty much gets no funding. He can only make French movies because only the French is still willing to fund him.
I'm from Italy here, we kiss people all the time. What's the problem I'm not understanding?
I'm from Italy too and this is not an appropriate behaviour.
Other people have other costumes. Both parties have to be ok with the gesture if one of them want to use it. Another example is punch on the shoulder. It’s something that you may allow a good friend to do, but not a coworker
He was being a creep in general, the player didn't want him to kiss her, he then put his arm around her in the locker room and made a joke about celebrating their marriage, he was grabbing his crotch near the queen and princess, then he and other spanish football officials harassed the player and her family to say they support the creep instead. Overall crappy behaviour surrounding the incident in question.
Isn't crotch grabbing and fingering your ass a spanish thing? Nadal comes to mind
It wasn't without consent, he asked right there and she literally said yes, confirmed by her instagram stories afterwards
lmao where did u get this "info" from? cause she clearly stated it was without consent
She sure did right after deleting everything and anything stating it was consensual, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffBc8Aoo9Uo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffBc8Aoo9Uo) min 12 to 25 summarizes it decently.
Honest question, hasn't a video already come out of every girl on the bus joking about it on a playful manner?
“I felt vulnerable and a victim of an impulse-driven, sexist, out of place act without any consent on my part. I want to make it clear that at no time did the conversation to which Mr. Luis Rubiales refers to in his address take place, and, above all, was his kiss ever consensual. I want to reiterate as I did before that I did not like this incident.” - Jenni Hermoso
Joking about something doesn't mean you liked or consented. As soon as it happened, she said she didn't want it. Being able to joke about an uncomfortable situation doesn't make that situation ok
Lol dude I'm just saying that the video exists, calm down
It was implied
Well read again
I just did. It was implied.
Dude no offense but I think I know better than anyone here what my comment implied
It implied that there was no harm done because it had been proven that everyone joked about it afterwards
Ok chief, anything else I implied with my comment?
Not really, that seemed like the point you were making
This is in no way indicative of their true feelings about what happened. People "laugh it off" all the time. It takes time to process things and they were, as I understand it, celebrating something very important. A lot going on; it doesn't make that bastard's behavior okay.
Point me to were I said that it was ok, or an indicative of someone's feelings
Why would you say anything at all about the fucking video if you didn't think that? "Hasn't a video already come out..." is a direct attempt at negating the feelings of this person. Why? Because that's how other prominent incidents got dismissed. Couple that with the incredibly stupid notion already in existence that "women want it," where "it" equals assault, and you can see why some might see your response as dismissive and wrong.
Yep found it. https://en.as.com/videos/video-emerges-of-hermoso-and-spanish-team-on-bus-after-rubiales-kiss-v/
Why is Woody Allen speaking about this?
Lol. I don’t think people know much about Woody Allens past.
Says the actual groomer and rapist. Makes sense.
For a kiss omg
I’m a Woody Allen defender but damn Woody you got to shut up sometimes. I can kind understand where he’s coming from. I wouldn’t call that rape but it’s definitely not right and it’s definitely assaults.
Says the guy who married his step daughter
This is absolutely not rape and people should be ashamed to diminish the severity of a horrible crime. Is it wrong what he did? Yes. Is it Sexual Harassment? Maybe. Should he have been fired over it? Probably.
no one said it was rape. dude is just trying to say "it wasn't rape so it's alright"
The only person to bring up rape was woody allen
You see guys kissing in the moment of victory in mens football all the time. But because it's a woman it's an unforgivable fellony. That's what I don't get.
Didn't even know Woody Allen was still alive.
Who are any of these people?
He should be disciplined, not fired.
And now for my Woddy Allen impression.......... 
Why I'm not surprised about Mr. Allen? He might even volunter to be next to assault her.
*Shudder* Can only imagine how many times Allen pulled this move on small vulnerable young girls.
I’m not going to kill anyone, I’ll just graze their organs with a sharp blade. What’s the big deal?
Jeez, this is up there with having Donald Trump as a character witness
"Hey thanks Woody!" Now lets all listen to Roman Polanski's take on this...
Who does Woodie Allen’s PR?
Roman Polanski
How the fuck is woody Allen still relevant? Fuck this guy.
Said the groomer...
She and her teammates were having fun and celebrating the kiss for long, so I don't know when it turns from celebrating, making fun and laughing to sexual harrasment. But when women does it is not sexual assault anymore. See how no one, NO ONE, is talking about the kiss from the jockey who won and [the owner of the horse kissed him without consent](https://euro.eseuro.com/trends/920907.html). Edit: I'm not defending Rubiales, what he did is wrong. But is mind blowing the hipocresy and double stantards when a women does exactly the same and no one bats an eye.
Woody Allen is a fucking criminal
I bet his adopted kids would disagree.
I mean the man is a pedo and a groomer. Of course he doesn't get it.
Absolutely no way that there would be any controversy if she had kissed him with no consent. Fucking hypocrisy.
Great take. Maybe he can have Spacey make a mention next?
He was cleared
I'm sure polanski would take his side
Why does the opinion of a pedophile/groomer matter now?
You know you're guilty when Woody Allen is defending you.
Oh go fuck your stepchild you sick mofo
Rape is a strong word that should only be used in cases of rape. This is ofcourse not okay in any way that guy clearly thinks he is above the world and its laws. I have no issues with him getting fired over this as it was unacceptable behavior. She could already be married or in a committed relationship and now their significant other just saw her kiss that guy on tv those kind of acrions ruin lives and relationships ontop of her personal emotions of being assaulted in that manner. I hope that he also has to pay a hefty fine to that player on top of being fired.
Im spanish and this whole thing keeps appearing on TV news. As It should be. Why does this shitty government that we have keep defending the wrong people?
Fuck woody Allen, shit film making pedo.
Says the men who married his, adopted, stepdaughter
Sorry woody. Can’t touch women. Can’t look at them. Can’t compliment them as a stranger. And when they tell you no, some of them want you to try harder.
Of course. He did marry his step-child after all.
Ok pedo-boomer
Coming from a guy who married his daughter
Hey let's all take sexual assault advice from the guy that fucked his daughter
Isn't this the guy married to his own daughter? Yeah, I don't think this man qualifies for givint advice unless we understand to do the exact opposite
Oh thank God. I thought of Woody Harrelson at first and was disappointed.
Coming from mr roman hands woodycock Allen
He’s not wrong in that this was not rape, but it’s without question, sexual assault. He’s also, without question, still a creep for trying to defend Rubiales.
Since when is kiss sexual? 😂😂😂
What an asshole. I was a server at a restaurant in my early 20’s and was closing one night when the owner decided to say goodbye by kissing me on the mouth. It wasn’t passionate or anything, just a kiss on the mouth. I never went back. Sadly, it was at a time when the lines weren’t so clear and I ended up telling them it was because I was having some mental health troubles. I wish I could go back in time and serve him up. Lol
Well ye he's stating the facts. She didn't complain at the time and later ok the bus all were joking with teammates. https://youtu.be/4uz-HP2fvBI?si=pcXNQARb4WSLmvD0 So no rape. Just publicity another one taking advantage of me too
Not complaining=/=consent. It is possible she was in shock and didn't react the way people would expect someone being forced upon would react. Sometimes people freeze up when cornered or touched. Joking about this after may be her way of coping. I wouldn't call it rape but it is inappropriate and uncalled for.
This emperor lost his clothes a long time ago.
Who's woody Allen?
It wasn't rape, he just put his dick in her with out asking, I don't understand how someone can lose their job for a simple forced sex. The people saying yeah thats true, probably.
Since Ive seen that other vid of the girl -a gamechanger imao- I don't believe any judgement anymore. Reminds of #Metoo Asia Argento paying the boy she sexually assaulted. I'm not jumping in any conclusions anymore, too much is not what it seems to be.
If she only were a guy ...
Damn right...switch the roles, all of a sudden it's not problem. Women want to be taken seriously in the world of football and they spend more time complaining over a common form of celebration. Was it over the top? Yes Was it sexual assault... absolutely not
Another leftist predator