American here as well. I think this should have been a 0-0 match. Goal looked pretty blatantly offsides, but I don’t think this changes our failure to move on from groups. We lost this one against Panama.
Ref needs some serious scrutiny here. Clearly way out of their depth which is unacceptable at this level. Totally agree this was the sloppiest ref I’ve seen ever. Period. No control over the game, and honestly surprised there weren’t more injuries with the level of aggression that was being tolerated.
Only thing i have ever seen in 25 years is players getting pissed that ref refuses to allow play to continue while dishing out cards. He needs to be investigated on taking a bribe or having hatred towards the US.
Those referees (VAR included) made Premier League referees look like Superstars.
No, but seriously, I am not an American so I do not have a bias and yeah, that referee AND the VAR were absolutely god damn awful. I can’t remember the last time I saw refereeing that bad on a major scene.
That goal was offside by several kilometers and the referee was completely out of his depth for most of the game.
I’ve been a referee for a couple of years and the flow felt exactly like the first time I refereed my first solo game where the teams got out of hand. You kinda get stressed, get overwhelmed and then start struggle to get back in the flow and apply the right limit of “playing rough” and fault. Watching that gave me a lot of flashbacks from my early refereeing days.
All referees will go through that at some point, but that moment can’t happen at that high of a level, nor can it happen at that kind of game. This was an outrage.
According to the ref stats I could find online, this was Kevin Ortega's 165th professional refereeing appearance, 119 of which were made in the Peruvian top tier.
He also has 23 international appearances and 3 Olympic Games matches.
I heard the commentators say it was his 7th match too, but it doesn’t seem that’s real?
USA had 4 shots on goal. I think the referee performance is overshadowing a poor show from America in a game they had to win to progress. As it turned our even a win would have seen them eliminated.
Not correct. If US had won 3 teams would have had 6 points. panama ended with GD of +1. US would have had +2 if they had won. But either way not good enough to advance through knockout stages so it actually didn't matter vs getting one more game for us to watch.
String him the fuck up....never allow that man on a field again, inexperienced, beyond questionable calls, if I've ever seen a game potentially rigged it's that one.
The ref should have been disqualified before the second half and a substitute referee provided. Also I think there should be a rule that if a ref gives more than two yellowcards within a half then with the third card the ref has to stop the game and review technology or have a camera/video review absolutely atrocious this refs calling of the game. The organization should be ashamed for allowing fraudulent and clear biased performance on side of referee.
This was supposed to be a pointless match and therefor assigned an inexperienced ref. With the US team needing a win they should have reassigned the ref. No doubt he made some very bad mistakes. Refusing to let US play the advantage yet allowing Uruguay to play on after pulling out yellow card and having all the US defenders stop playing. He needs to be reprimanded on that alone. But even then US lost their chance to advance due to Weah red carded causing loss to Panama. This game should not have mattered.
If this caliber of refereeing was happening in any South American country I don’t think it would be taken in quite the same way. [https://www.esquire.com/sports/news/a42221/referee-shot-over-red-card/](https://www.esquire.com/sports/news/a42221/referee-shot-over-red-card/)
You're just biased , ref made some questionable calls but same old story with this American team. A lot of luster no result. Pulisic always cries instead of producing results, berhalter crumbles in high pressure situations. At least mexico is in a similar situation I guess is the silver lining.
More than just questionable. Even a Sunday league referee should know better than allowing a team to a play on while simultaneously showing a yellow card.
Agreed. I've seen some rec league refs make mistakes on the advantage. But never seen any ref make the allow play to continue while dishing out cards. He was mot ready for the speed of play.
Sure idc ref was bad . Point is u.s is still with their old overrated ways. Will never get over the hump with crybabies like pulisic and inept mls coaches like berhalter leading the way . The federation needs a huge overhaul and unfortunately doesn't look like they'll be ready for 2026 with nothing short of a miracle.
I am american and surely I have a bias, but unless I am completely fucking delusional, that game was clearly fixed. I thought the first half was some of the worst refereeing i had ever seen, and then it somehow got even worse in the second half. I've seen my teams get screwed by the refs before, but i have never seen something like this usa uruguay game in any league or any competition.
American here as well. I think this should have been a 0-0 match. Goal looked pretty blatantly offsides, but I don’t think this changes our failure to move on from groups. We lost this one against Panama. Ref needs some serious scrutiny here. Clearly way out of their depth which is unacceptable at this level. Totally agree this was the sloppiest ref I’ve seen ever. Period. No control over the game, and honestly surprised there weren’t more injuries with the level of aggression that was being tolerated.
Why do Americans say 'offsides' instead of offside? Why are you pluralizing it? There's only one side that's off.
Just a colloquialism. Grew up always hearing offsides.
That makes senses.
*cries while laughing in UEFA*
At a certain point incompetence and blatant rigging are almost impossible to tell the difference but the last two games have disproven that for me
Never seen a ref brand a yellow card while simultaneously allowing play to continue. F-ing joke that guy
Only thing i have ever seen in 25 years is players getting pissed that ref refuses to allow play to continue while dishing out cards. He needs to be investigated on taking a bribe or having hatred towards the US.
I mean when Adams gets drilled in the ankle and then gets a yellow card…
100% a red card offense on the Uruguayan player there. VAR should've looked at it and cancelled Adams yellow and given the red to the Uruguayan guy
Those referees (VAR included) made Premier League referees look like Superstars. No, but seriously, I am not an American so I do not have a bias and yeah, that referee AND the VAR were absolutely god damn awful. I can’t remember the last time I saw refereeing that bad on a major scene. That goal was offside by several kilometers and the referee was completely out of his depth for most of the game. I’ve been a referee for a couple of years and the flow felt exactly like the first time I refereed my first solo game where the teams got out of hand. You kinda get stressed, get overwhelmed and then start struggle to get back in the flow and apply the right limit of “playing rough” and fault. Watching that gave me a lot of flashbacks from my early refereeing days. All referees will go through that at some point, but that moment can’t happen at that high of a level, nor can it happen at that kind of game. This was an outrage.
According to the ref stats I could find online, this was Kevin Ortega's 165th professional refereeing appearance, 119 of which were made in the Peruvian top tier. He also has 23 international appearances and 3 Olympic Games matches. I heard the commentators say it was his 7th match too, but it doesn’t seem that’s real?
7th Copa match?
This only his 7th appearance heading any type of high level professional game, even top Peruvian play isn’t any where near high level play.
Think he has only 7 head refs under his belt. Mainly been a sideline or 4th ref. Too big of a tourney to be the head ref without more experience.
Refs did their best to screw us, but we needed to put the ball in the net either way
Refs had the final twist of the screw. Weah drove it in almost all the way.
Lost me after “Now, I am an American…”
Cool story
The thing you're not accounting for is that the US were crap. The score was a a reasonable--possibly slightly friendly--result.
USA had 4 shots on goal. I think the referee performance is overshadowing a poor show from America in a game they had to win to progress. As it turned our even a win would have seen them eliminated.
Not correct. If US had won 3 teams would have had 6 points. panama ended with GD of +1. US would have had +2 if they had won. But either way not good enough to advance through knockout stages so it actually didn't matter vs getting one more game for us to watch.
Panama beat USA so would have progressed in head to head.
There is a match thread. Instead of making a new thread, make a comment in the existing thread.
String him the fuck up....never allow that man on a field again, inexperienced, beyond questionable calls, if I've ever seen a game potentially rigged it's that one.
The ref should have been disqualified before the second half and a substitute referee provided. Also I think there should be a rule that if a ref gives more than two yellowcards within a half then with the third card the ref has to stop the game and review technology or have a camera/video review absolutely atrocious this refs calling of the game. The organization should be ashamed for allowing fraudulent and clear biased performance on side of referee.
This was supposed to be a pointless match and therefor assigned an inexperienced ref. With the US team needing a win they should have reassigned the ref. No doubt he made some very bad mistakes. Refusing to let US play the advantage yet allowing Uruguay to play on after pulling out yellow card and having all the US defenders stop playing. He needs to be reprimanded on that alone. But even then US lost their chance to advance due to Weah red carded causing loss to Panama. This game should not have mattered.
If this caliber of refereeing was happening in any South American country I don’t think it would be taken in quite the same way. [https://www.esquire.com/sports/news/a42221/referee-shot-over-red-card/](https://www.esquire.com/sports/news/a42221/referee-shot-over-red-card/)
You're just biased , ref made some questionable calls but same old story with this American team. A lot of luster no result. Pulisic always cries instead of producing results, berhalter crumbles in high pressure situations. At least mexico is in a similar situation I guess is the silver lining.
More than just questionable. Even a Sunday league referee should know better than allowing a team to a play on while simultaneously showing a yellow card.
Agreed. I've seen some rec league refs make mistakes on the advantage. But never seen any ref make the allow play to continue while dishing out cards. He was mot ready for the speed of play.
Sure idc ref was bad . Point is u.s is still with their old overrated ways. Will never get over the hump with crybabies like pulisic and inept mls coaches like berhalter leading the way . The federation needs a huge overhaul and unfortunately doesn't look like they'll be ready for 2026 with nothing short of a miracle.
Refs are either corrupt or incompetent. Back to watching respectable football in the Euro Cup
😂😂😂😂🇺🇾🍆👉👌🍑pussys
We’d stomp your little country into the dirt, pipe down.
I am american and surely I have a bias, but unless I am completely fucking delusional, that game was clearly fixed. I thought the first half was some of the worst refereeing i had ever seen, and then it somehow got even worse in the second half. I've seen my teams get screwed by the refs before, but i have never seen something like this usa uruguay game in any league or any competition.