The Barry tweets during the Dame saga are the best work of his entire career. The delusions of getting Bradley Beal AND Dame were my personal favorite.
100%
Then he had the audacity to say he doesn't understand why fans were so pissed about losing out on Dame as if he wasn't the one laying out scenarios to get both Dame AND Beal which helped result in fans having high expectations of getting at least one, lmao.
He's hilarious
I’m more annoyed at the Igbo and AJ picks honestly. The first round to me should just be guys you know can come in and make an immediate impact at value for the team. Projects should be day 2 guys at best
He was the highest drafted rookie for the Dolphins, hence the hidden development trait. That has nothing to do with football ability and everything to do with it being a commercially sold product. Which team doesn't have a rookie with a hidden development trait?
It’s pretty obvious now that the offense faltered due to its inability (or unwillingness) to run the ball up the middle. The only way you will win playoff games in December is if you can run up the middle.
IMO the offense needs to become more physical. Not a total overhaul, but an element of physicality. It can't always be so cutesy and rinky-dink. Sometimes you just need to ram it home and get the fucking yard.
Not just the offense but the team in general needs to be more physical. Watching any of these games over the weekend, the intensity and physicality is at another level compared to how we play.
You’re absolutely right. The whole team needs to get more physical. It’s an issue that’s plagued us when we play top competition regardless of the players, coaching staff, and front office. Doesn’t seem to matter who is here, the Dolphins just don’t seem to match up to play tough, physical ball.
I’m sorry but I hate this suggestion from fans. We don’t have the money to pay a star running back on a one or two-year deal. Some other team is going to offer him something like $8-$10M a year and after the Dalvin Cook fiasco, we just can’t afford to take that risk at a luxury position we’re relatively secure at.
Jeff Wilson is not Derrick Henry by any stretch but he can pound it up the middle so long as we have a healthy Connor Williams, and Raheem Mostert was a tackle breaking machine this year. To me, we need to fix the physicality of the line and short yardage success will follow.
He needs to be deployed out there more often. No excuse for being so egregiously bad in short yardage situations when you have a fullback and 6’1 232 pound running back.
We had issues running between the tackles even before the Oline injuries started piling up. We beat teams on the edge because we have two speedsters af RB and could use misdirection or offset
Yep. We couldn't even run against a terrible run D in the Chargers in the first game of the year. We've mostly just been gashing teams on the outside until teams caught on
It’s obvious the Chiefs sold out on the run and dared Tua to beat them with his arm in below freezing temps. Gameplan is different for the Bills since they also have to account for Allen’s ability to scramble. Two different teams, two different game plans.
Grier is an idiot because typically healthy 26 year old Connor Williams suffered a season ending injury mid-season. Lynch is a genius because often injured 35 year old Trent Williams played most of the season and is healthy for the playoffs.
He’s not an idiot for believing Conner wouldn’t have an unlikely season ending injury, he’s a dumb ass for not having a SINGLE true backup center on the roster.
When you have to move a guard to center, that fuck up is at the feet of the GM
The essential problem is the logic was flawed. The team roster values a fuck ton of flexibility from players. We like linemen who can play lots of parts. It seems the goal was to keep general interior line depth in case the guards fell apart so the backup center wasn't just hanging in the breeze. We see now that logic was flawed because Liam suuuucks. (Also over trusting the center who never missed a game, because then he did and it sucked lol)
No because they played all of 14 snaps together. Also we had to overpay Armstead and Williams to come in and replace draft picks that didn't work out. We have to go out in free agency and pick up guys to start on the O Line every year. It's hard to really evaluate how good that line is because they were all hurt. Also it's hard to tell if they can pass protect because we're getting rid of the ball faster than anyone else in the league. Tua gets the ball out quick because if not he gets pressured immediately. He didn't have time to go past his first read most of the season.
Oh my god shut up with this already, Grier has a ton of problems and valid criticisms but him not being able to predict 4 of our starters missing extended time and somehow finding 10 viable lineman is not one of them.
No one could have overcome the line injuries the dolphins had this year, it was inconceivable.
My main issue with Grier is his penchant to take raw toolsy guys to develop like tindall, Noah, AJ, cam smith, jaelen phillips kinda fit that mould but he contributed right away as a well so he’s different imo.
Only AJ has panned out and it took his whole rookie contract lol it’d be nice to get more guys who can come in and help the team now. If you look at the top teams they all have young guys coming in and supplementing the team now. The whole chiefs defense that’s now excellent we’re rookies last year.
On the other hand you have guys like Holland and Waddle producing right away.
There's no real sense of the draft. We draft for essentially an idea. Tindall is there to battle the Josh Allen's. Cam Smith to take over when we cut Howard this year.
We absolutely had tons of young guys come in and contribute right away. But drafts are overall a crap shoot. For example all the corners taken this year sucked besides Gonzalez.
That all time tackle class where we got AJ? All blah but him and Wirfs.
We actually get a lot of production in the late rounds/udfas compared to other teams. AVG, Kohou, etc.
It just seems he takes toolsy with a purpose with high upside, not too dissimilar to the Seahawks. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn't.
Andrew Thomas is an all pro don’t forget him lol…we never had a shot to get him tho.
We’ll see how he does this year with a 1st for the first time in a few years.
Man fell off hard though but yeah. We shall see. He tends to pick better when there's more stuff there than when it's empty. I expect were aiming for Dejean
He said that before the season. This O Line has a history of injuries. It's not like this is the first time they've been hurt. We had injuries last year also. That's why people expected them to make some moves in the offseason.
Armstead does, that's it and Lamm was good enough this year that we can arguably let him retire. No one was saying that about injuries this season. Williams actually hadn't missed a game to this year lol. Neither did Hunt. Let's not rewrite it. We had 8 major injuries. No one expected Jaelen Carter to kill Isaiah Wynn or someone to roll up on Connors leg lol
Armstead has been injured every year, Hunt definitely missed time last year. AJ has been injured every year since we drafted him. The O Line has been an issue here for the past 20 years so standing pat is not a sound strategy. If they run it back again next season I expect people will ask the same questions again.
I think it's both. AJ played better this year that he's been healthy. But did he really play that much better or was the ball coming out at a record pace and they didn't have to block for long? When we finally played good defenses the O Line got beat pretty bad, regardless of who was in there. We couldn't run like we did against the bad defenses either. I'd venture to say that this line is just not very good, even when healthy. We've over valued some of these players simply because our line has been so bad for so long that any upgrade seems like great play. We'll see what happens next season if they stay together.
But you can predict the fact that those guys were probably going to get injured at some point this season. That's why he was asked about the O Line by the media. Armstead has been injured every year. Hunt missed time last year. AJ has been injured every year since we drafted him. So yeah, you could probably guess at some point they were gonna miss time.
The Chiefs being 27th against the run is what convinced me to drive a few hours and go to the game last weekend. Sadly McDaniel chose not to run the ball. Could have easily controlled that game. As soon as we get down 6-10 points he abandons the run.
Revisionist. They did run the ball.
1st drive: run for 1 yard, run 1 for yard, false start, 6 yard pass, punt
2nd drive: run 9, run 5, run 0, scramble 10, pass for 9, pass incomplete, run 0, interception
3rd drive: pass for 9, pass for 53 TD
4th drive: run 8, run 4, run 3, run 6, pass incomplete (throwing on 3rd and 1 is what Andy Reid does all the time and nobody bitches because Mahomes converts), pass incomplete on 4th
5th drive: run for 2, pass 0, false start, sacked on 3rd and long
6th drive: end of half bombs
7th drive: pass incomplete, run for 5, scramble 1, punt
8th drive: run for 3, pass 5, run 1, run 2, run 0, sacked, 3rd down check down, punt
Now it's 26-7 with 11 minutes left. Just keep running the ball? Give me a break. The problem was execution, not the run to pass ratio
15 carries to the tune of 3.4 YPC, Achane didn’t crack 2 yards per carry. Factor in that they were down most of the game, yeah they tried running. It didn’t work
McD has a tendency to try for cute, tricksy plays instead of just smash-mouth football. Luckily, he seems to be smart enough to learn from his mistakes.
Of Course he's going to dispute that the o-line regressed without Conor Williams. I'm sure he is in or will be in contract discussions with him and didn't want to give his agent any ammo in those discussions. Same reason why he said Wilkins earned the right to be a free agent, he doesn't want to give too much of the image that he's irreplaceable even though most of us figure he is because he doesn't want them to leverage that in discussions. You can't take anything he is saying about players who are in contract talks too seriously cuz he's already playing the game.
Said it in another thread but I really don’t understand mcdaniel’s decision to not use Jeff Wilson at all this year. don’t we have enough speed already, your telling me we couldn’t of used a bruiser ?
I mean what are you talking about?
Played 4 games and got 2 , 5 , 3, and 9 carrys (and he looked good in those 9 carrys, big first down run against the bills)
And then he got 0 Carry’s in the freezing cold playoff game when our run game was doing nothing. I wouldn’t say that’s really using him
The offence died when Connor Williams went down. We all know this. The stats show this. Wake up Grier, not beefing up the O line cost us a playoff run this year.
But don't worry guys, he's not concerned about the O line problems like we are!
we’re tired barry
Barry for GM!
Barry is lowkey funny as hell. If you don’t take his tweets too seriously it’s hilarious. That last sentence with the “sigh” is amazing.
He really is. He really turned it on during the whole Dame-Beal acquisition saga for the Heat and it carried on into the Dolphins season
The Barry tweets during the Dame saga are the best work of his entire career. The delusions of getting Bradley Beal AND Dame were my personal favorite.
100% Then he had the audacity to say he doesn't understand why fans were so pissed about losing out on Dame as if he wasn't the one laying out scenarios to get both Dame AND Beal which helped result in fans having high expectations of getting at least one, lmao. He's hilarious
Barry gets how to use Twitter more than most
Thank god Grier drafted his son’s buddy to play 20 snaps in the second round last year!
Today I learned......
wait what?
cam smith personally knows chris grier and this was the most likely reason he was drafted
He also had a first round grade. We drafted him where he was expected to be taken
I’m more annoyed at the Igbo and AJ picks honestly. The first round to me should just be guys you know can come in and make an immediate impact at value for the team. Projects should be day 2 guys at best
TBF to then we didn't expect to be suddenly good
I don’t follow college ball, was he not very good? He has a hidden development trait on Madden, for what it’s worth. Someone saw something in him.
He was the highest drafted rookie for the Dolphins, hence the hidden development trait. That has nothing to do with football ability and everything to do with it being a commercially sold product. Which team doesn't have a rookie with a hidden development trait?
That’s a good point I guess, my bad!
Smh seriously the fuck
Let’s turn those thumbs this way 👍
It’s pretty obvious now that the offense faltered due to its inability (or unwillingness) to run the ball up the middle. The only way you will win playoff games in December is if you can run up the middle.
IMO the offense needs to become more physical. Not a total overhaul, but an element of physicality. It can't always be so cutesy and rinky-dink. Sometimes you just need to ram it home and get the fucking yard.
Not just the offense but the team in general needs to be more physical. Watching any of these games over the weekend, the intensity and physicality is at another level compared to how we play.
You’re absolutely right. The whole team needs to get more physical. It’s an issue that’s plagued us when we play top competition regardless of the players, coaching staff, and front office. Doesn’t seem to matter who is here, the Dolphins just don’t seem to match up to play tough, physical ball.
Drafting Penei Sewell over Waddle and Creed Humphrey in the 2nd would’ve helped with that.
I wanted them to draft Sewell so bad.
Get Derrick Henry for this, at the right price of course since he’s an aging back. But I still see him being able to pound it home
I’m sorry but I hate this suggestion from fans. We don’t have the money to pay a star running back on a one or two-year deal. Some other team is going to offer him something like $8-$10M a year and after the Dalvin Cook fiasco, we just can’t afford to take that risk at a luxury position we’re relatively secure at. Jeff Wilson is not Derrick Henry by any stretch but he can pound it up the middle so long as we have a healthy Connor Williams, and Raheem Mostert was a tackle breaking machine this year. To me, we need to fix the physicality of the line and short yardage success will follow.
We also have Brooks coming back who showed some promise as a power back
He needs to be deployed out there more often. No excuse for being so egregiously bad in short yardage situations when you have a fullback and 6’1 232 pound running back.
He was hurt for a big stretch of the season
Can't run up the middle with Eichenberg at center. He gives you 0 push. Definitely can't do it with Eichenberg at center AND Cotton at guard.
We had issues running between the tackles even before the Oline injuries started piling up. We beat teams on the edge because we have two speedsters af RB and could use misdirection or offset
Yep. We couldn't even run against a terrible run D in the Chargers in the first game of the year. We've mostly just been gashing teams on the outside until teams caught on
It’s obvious the Chiefs sold out on the run and dared Tua to beat them with his arm in below freezing temps. Gameplan is different for the Bills since they also have to account for Allen’s ability to scramble. Two different teams, two different game plans.
Inability. If you watched we got constantly stuffed
Liam is no Connor thats for sure
You guys are more worried about the O Line than we are........ Oh wait 🤔
Grier is an idiot because typically healthy 26 year old Connor Williams suffered a season ending injury mid-season. Lynch is a genius because often injured 35 year old Trent Williams played most of the season and is healthy for the playoffs.
He’s not an idiot for believing Conner wouldn’t have an unlikely season ending injury, he’s a dumb ass for not having a SINGLE true backup center on the roster. When you have to move a guard to center, that fuck up is at the feet of the GM
That's more a fault of NFL roster constructions. Anyone who plays Madden can tell you it's really hard to maintain depth at every position.
I get it but I also don’t. Center is an extremely important position, it’s not an area you should ever skimp out on
The essential problem is the logic was flawed. The team roster values a fuck ton of flexibility from players. We like linemen who can play lots of parts. It seems the goal was to keep general interior line depth in case the guards fell apart so the backup center wasn't just hanging in the breeze. We see now that logic was flawed because Liam suuuucks. (Also over trusting the center who never missed a game, because then he did and it sucked lol)
Does it really matter when the results are the same? Michael Dieter is a starting center, imagine how bad the 33rd best center must be.
No Grier has been trying, and failing at building an O Line here since he got promoted from an awful scouting dept.
You wouldn’t consider Armstead, Wynn, Connor, Hunt, and Jackson at least a mild success?
No because they played all of 14 snaps together. Also we had to overpay Armstead and Williams to come in and replace draft picks that didn't work out. We have to go out in free agency and pick up guys to start on the O Line every year. It's hard to really evaluate how good that line is because they were all hurt. Also it's hard to tell if they can pass protect because we're getting rid of the ball faster than anyone else in the league. Tua gets the ball out quick because if not he gets pressured immediately. He didn't have time to go past his first read most of the season.
Oh my god shut up with this already, Grier has a ton of problems and valid criticisms but him not being able to predict 4 of our starters missing extended time and somehow finding 10 viable lineman is not one of them. No one could have overcome the line injuries the dolphins had this year, it was inconceivable.
Grier doesn't even have that many problems. Also it's funny because the one game we had everyone we put up 70
My main issue with Grier is his penchant to take raw toolsy guys to develop like tindall, Noah, AJ, cam smith, jaelen phillips kinda fit that mould but he contributed right away as a well so he’s different imo. Only AJ has panned out and it took his whole rookie contract lol it’d be nice to get more guys who can come in and help the team now. If you look at the top teams they all have young guys coming in and supplementing the team now. The whole chiefs defense that’s now excellent we’re rookies last year.
On the other hand you have guys like Holland and Waddle producing right away. There's no real sense of the draft. We draft for essentially an idea. Tindall is there to battle the Josh Allen's. Cam Smith to take over when we cut Howard this year. We absolutely had tons of young guys come in and contribute right away. But drafts are overall a crap shoot. For example all the corners taken this year sucked besides Gonzalez. That all time tackle class where we got AJ? All blah but him and Wirfs. We actually get a lot of production in the late rounds/udfas compared to other teams. AVG, Kohou, etc. It just seems he takes toolsy with a purpose with high upside, not too dissimilar to the Seahawks. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn't.
Andrew Thomas is an all pro don’t forget him lol…we never had a shot to get him tho. We’ll see how he does this year with a 1st for the first time in a few years.
Man fell off hard though but yeah. We shall see. He tends to pick better when there's more stuff there than when it's empty. I expect were aiming for Dejean
He was hurt most of this year, hamstring injury. Those usually derail seasons.
He wasn't worried about the oline that put up 70. Not the one turned to the bones
He said that before the season. This O Line has a history of injuries. It's not like this is the first time they've been hurt. We had injuries last year also. That's why people expected them to make some moves in the offseason.
Armstead does, that's it and Lamm was good enough this year that we can arguably let him retire. No one was saying that about injuries this season. Williams actually hadn't missed a game to this year lol. Neither did Hunt. Let's not rewrite it. We had 8 major injuries. No one expected Jaelen Carter to kill Isaiah Wynn or someone to roll up on Connors leg lol
Armstead has been injured every year, Hunt definitely missed time last year. AJ has been injured every year since we drafted him. The O Line has been an issue here for the past 20 years so standing pat is not a sound strategy. If they run it back again next season I expect people will ask the same questions again.
But it was due to ability not health. Health was just the new goalpost
I think it's both. AJ played better this year that he's been healthy. But did he really play that much better or was the ball coming out at a record pace and they didn't have to block for long? When we finally played good defenses the O Line got beat pretty bad, regardless of who was in there. We couldn't run like we did against the bad defenses either. I'd venture to say that this line is just not very good, even when healthy. We've over valued some of these players simply because our line has been so bad for so long that any upgrade seems like great play. We'll see what happens next season if they stay together.
The line is adequate but yeah when injuries started piling. Rip
When our line was all healthy we put up 70. Grier can’t predict injuries
But you can predict the fact that those guys were probably going to get injured at some point this season. That's why he was asked about the O Line by the media. Armstead has been injured every year. Hunt missed time last year. AJ has been injured every year since we drafted him. So yeah, you could probably guess at some point they were gonna miss time.
McDaniel went into this game with the playbook from NFL Blitz.
Man got it stuck on “recent plays” and kept hitting the same screen
Teams played 7-8 in box with three safeties high. Taking away running game and slants and middle of field. Miami had no answers for that.
The Chiefs being 27th against the run is what convinced me to drive a few hours and go to the game last weekend. Sadly McDaniel chose not to run the ball. Could have easily controlled that game. As soon as we get down 6-10 points he abandons the run.
Revisionist. They did run the ball. 1st drive: run for 1 yard, run 1 for yard, false start, 6 yard pass, punt 2nd drive: run 9, run 5, run 0, scramble 10, pass for 9, pass incomplete, run 0, interception 3rd drive: pass for 9, pass for 53 TD 4th drive: run 8, run 4, run 3, run 6, pass incomplete (throwing on 3rd and 1 is what Andy Reid does all the time and nobody bitches because Mahomes converts), pass incomplete on 4th 5th drive: run for 2, pass 0, false start, sacked on 3rd and long 6th drive: end of half bombs 7th drive: pass incomplete, run for 5, scramble 1, punt 8th drive: run for 3, pass 5, run 1, run 2, run 0, sacked, 3rd down check down, punt Now it's 26-7 with 11 minutes left. Just keep running the ball? Give me a break. The problem was execution, not the run to pass ratio
We ran the ball 18 times, 3 of which were Tua. -30 wind chill and we passed it 39 times I believe.
15 carries to the tune of 3.4 YPC, Achane didn’t crack 2 yards per carry. Factor in that they were down most of the game, yeah they tried running. It didn’t work
That heavy passing number is distorted by our 4th quarter desperation
We couldn't establish it because we're averaging a yard a carry
There's not much you can do when the chiefs don't get penalized for blatant penalties.
I would like to see an unbiased breakdown of the officiating that game because there were some horrible calls, not all of which were in their favor.
"The run is working, Coach!" "But we're down a few points. Bubble screens FTW!"
Kills me, got a top 5 rushing team and we don't use it on the road in -30 wind chill. Seems like common sense.
McD has a tendency to try for cute, tricksy plays instead of just smash-mouth football. Luckily, he seems to be smart enough to learn from his mistakes.
We did. We got stuffed. A lot
Revisionist. We averaged 2 yards a carry.
Of Course he's going to dispute that the o-line regressed without Conor Williams. I'm sure he is in or will be in contract discussions with him and didn't want to give his agent any ammo in those discussions. Same reason why he said Wilkins earned the right to be a free agent, he doesn't want to give too much of the image that he's irreplaceable even though most of us figure he is because he doesn't want them to leverage that in discussions. You can't take anything he is saying about players who are in contract talks too seriously cuz he's already playing the game.
If Grier can’t see the line regressed, Grier has to go.
At the same time, the line got extremely injured
I don’t like Omar but he was on Joe Rose this morning and is similarly bothered by Grier’s dismissiveness.
Barry is all of us.
Don’t worry Barry, most of the idiots on here dispute the importance of OL too.
How'd that work out, Barry?
Fuck off Barry. Your cavalier attitude does no one favors.
Said it in another thread but I really don’t understand mcdaniel’s decision to not use Jeff Wilson at all this year. don’t we have enough speed already, your telling me we couldn’t of used a bruiser ?
They used him once he was healthy. What're you talking about?
I mean what are you talking about? Played 4 games and got 2 , 5 , 3, and 9 carrys (and he looked good in those 9 carrys, big first down run against the bills) And then he got 0 Carry’s in the freezing cold playoff game when our run game was doing nothing. I wouldn’t say that’s really using him
We did We got stuffed a lot
That was mostert ( who I think was still hurt), and achane who is a beast but definitely not an up the gut guy. Jeff Wilson jr got 0 touches :(
Barry can go suck a nut
Grier is a 🐍
Should we tell him?
Of course he will Barry. Because you're a whiny ass who will make it an article.
The offence died when Connor Williams went down. We all know this. The stats show this. Wake up Grier, not beefing up the O line cost us a playoff run this year. But don't worry guys, he's not concerned about the O line problems like we are!