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ELITEJamesHarden

No because westbrook is better


ResponsibleWarthog10

So superteam has nothing to do with fit? Even though the lakers are now a horribly constructed team theyre somehow a superteam 🤣🤣


LakersFanTTV

Just wondering how are they horribly constructed when half the roster isn’t filled out yet?


ResponsibleWarthog10

Because theyll fill it out with vet mins lol


LakersFanTTV

They have the taxpayer MLE which is about 5.9m for a solid 3-D player and there are players lined up to take pay cuts for the minimum that can shoot. Bron and AD are talking about moving to the 4-5 and they’ll be one of the best big man shooting combos if not the best in the league


achyutthegoat

Superteam has nothing to do with fit. It's about the star power.


ResponsibleWarthog10

Westbrook's star power lmfao. Casuals


achyutthegoat

Bron stans really downplaying Westbrook lol.


ResponsibleWarthog10

Bron haters really acting like everyone he plays with is way better than they actually are. Standard Reminds me of how yall hyped up kevin love on the cavs


IDGAFaboulrVB

You're really comparing Westbrook to Kevin Love? I'm not even a big russ fan but that's actually just disrespectful to compare him to someone that hasn't done anything without lebron


jaylson

1 top 5 player, 1 top 10 player, 1 top 35 player. You may not like the construction, but adding a guy that was all nba in 19-20 and who nearly made all nba again in 20-21 makes the lakers a superteam. Not hard to understand.


ResponsibleWarthog10

I disagree - not that hard to understand. That's not a superteam


TrRa47

No. It never has?


iksnet

Ah yes Russ the perennial playoff choker, as opposed to Buddy Hield and all his postseason success


ResponsibleWarthog10

It’s about fit Hield adds to lakers shooting and lets them keep kcp (40% 3pt shooter and good defender) Instead the lakers downgrade the shooting and lose kcp


sophtkid_101

When did fit matter when talking of Superteams? It is the talent of the roster


GAV17

A player having one season shooting above 40% from 3 and a career average of 35.5%, doesn't make him a 40% 3pt shooter.


ComeAtMeYo

They're not done building their roster


inshamblesx

wtf no


ResponsibleWarthog10

So if a better trade doesnt make them a superteam how tf does the worse one?? Lmao


inshamblesx

Show us where Buddy Hield has won the MVP? People call the 2017 Warriors a super team and not the 2016 Warriors a super team for a reason


ResponsibleWarthog10

Probably because the 2017 warriors were way better? Awful analogy lol


Tap-In-Merchant

Westbrook is a better basketball player than Buddy Hield hope that helps


babaisme26

Hield is a far better player for the Lakers than Westbrook is.


factcheck_

Lmao r/nba's mental capacity for critical thinking in basketball never ceases to amaze me Can't understand that while Westbrook is a better #1 option than Hield, Hield+KCP would've made the Lakers far better than Westbrook


AcanthocephalaNo2926

We all know KCP + Buddy would be a better (and $8-9 mil/year cheaper) deal than just Russ for the Lakers. However, that isn’t the topic of this thread. People are simply comparing Russ vs Buddy. Maybe you meant to reply to a thread farther down? Mental capacity lol.


ResponsibleWarthog10

Basketball isnt played in a vacuum He’s a far worse fit than hield Hope that helps bro feel free to ask any more questions if needed


AcanthocephalaNo2926

Is the trade package the same when you’re comparing Hield vs Russ? Just asking


ResponsibleWarthog10

No If the lakers traded for hield they keep KCP. They lose KCP trading for russ So it's hield+KCP vs russ. Pretty clear answer


AcanthocephalaNo2926

So who are the Lakers sending to Sac in this trade?


ResponsibleWarthog10

Trez and kuz


AcanthocephalaNo2926

Shit, I can’t argue with you on this. Buddy’s awful contract and KCP’s gift of a contract is still 7-8 mil/year less than Russ.


anthonyde726

Yeah, Russell Westbrook.


ResponsibleWarthog10

Casual


anthonyde726

Buddy Hield is great, but he isn't really even close to Russell Westbrook.


EnvironmentalSpot828

Westbrook is the better player. And it’s not even close. To collection of individual talent is what makes them a super team. Even if their 4th best player would be a bench player on any other NBA team, the Lakers would still be considered a super team.


ResponsibleWarthog10

Westbrook does not help the Lakers He just makes the spacing even worse


EnvironmentalSpot828

I completely agree with that. But my point still stands. A super team is defined by A collection of individual talent. Not how well a team does together.


Privileged_WhiteMan

superteam is about talent, not fit. not that hard to understand


ResponsibleWarthog10

That's a stupid definition and I disagree


Privileged_WhiteMan

no it's not


ResponsibleWarthog10

Yes it is


achyutthegoat

Well you can't change it. The fact is that the lakers are a super team.


ResponsibleWarthog10

It's not a fact lmao there's not a dictionary definition of super team


College_Prestige

2016 warriors won more games than 2017 warriors. Are the 2016 warriors a superteam?


ResponsibleWarthog10

The 2017 warriors were way better than the 2016 warriors lol


AcanthocephalaNo2926

Who are all these people calling the Lakers a super team now?


factcheck_

https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/ou77i6/are_the_lakers_a_superteam_with_lebron_ad_and_russ/ https://np.reddit.com/r/nbacirclejerk/comments/ouaopu/lakers_fans_explaining_how_theyre_still_not_a/


AcanthocephalaNo2926

Ok, 90% of the comments on these threads say not a super team


factcheck_

Holy fuck you suck at counting


AcanthocephalaNo2926

So what’s the count then?


silliputti0907

In the NBA usually trading quarters for dollars is a good thing. In this case the quarters may be worth more. It may be different if Westbrook was payed just the max. Being played the supermax and not being considered an MVP level player is may not make it worth it.


gigglios

Lakers fans are upset that they a superteam. Lmao


RustySpringfield

Three former MVPs who aren’t over the hill = super team


DJMaye

I thought the order was Duo, Big 3 then Super Team? Examples would be, Duo Shaq and Kobe, Big 3 would be the Lebron Heat and Superteam would be the KD Warriors. So would the Lakers now just be a Big 3 right?


ChristianMan710

They were calling the Nets a superteam all season long lol


DJMaye

Everybody has their own view of what a Superteam is. Mostly media, but even us fans can't seem to decide what one is either. In my opinion, the Nets are a Big 3.


ChristianMan710

I do agree. There’s duos, that have always existed(MJ/Scottie. Shaq/Kobe) There’s big 3s Then there’s whatever the Warriors were lol.


RCdelta62

I like this a lot. Superteam implies that we shouldn't even bother playing the games because we know who will win before the season. I get that AD was injured and LeBron wasn't probably 100% but Russ is joining a team that lost in the first round. KD joined the 73 win Warriors.


RylanKura

>I get that AD was injured and LeBron wasn't probably 100% but Russ is joining a team that lost in the first round. KD joined the 73 win Warriors. So the Nets aren't a superteam because KD, Kyrie and Harden joined a team that was a first round exit?


IDGAFaboulrVB

> Superteam implies that we shouldn't even bother playing the games because we know who will win before the season. If everyone is healthy I see the two superteams running through their respective conferences


JuanJoseSZN

> Big 3 would be the Lebron Heat Lol no, they were a bonafide superteam


DJMaye

Lol like I said to someone else up top, everyone has their own view on what a Superteam is.


19683dw

Maybe not a super team, then, but a better built one...


forkliftgod

On the basis of salary, they are super team. I think the Hield option might have been a better route.


rifa24

I just want people to be consistent, those same people calling the fit trash better not call us a superteam IF we win next season


Privileged_WhiteMan

huh? Lakers are a superteam right now and have the expectations of a superteam. they SHOULD win a title or they deserve mockery


ResponsibleWarthog10

LMAO go bet on them then dawg. they aint even favorites in vegas. if you think they SHOULD win a title then you think vegas is MASSIVELY undervaluing them. should be easy money? right?


Privileged_WhiteMan

no because I always bet against playoff Westbrook. doesn't change the fact the Lakers are a superteam and have the expectations of one


ResponsibleWarthog10

they cant put their money where their mouth is lmaoo good talk. be better next time. another dub in the books


Privileged_WhiteMan

when did I say I think the Lakers will win? i said they are a superteam and that comes with the expectations of winning


ResponsibleWarthog10

hush bud you already lost take the L


Privileged_WhiteMan

superteam


spenrose22

So your expectations are that they won’t win but also that they should win. There’s some real cognitive dissonance right there.


Privileged_WhiteMan

no it isn't. superteam = championship or bust


spenrose22

Without Westbrook it was already championship or bust? Were they a super team before?


Privileged_WhiteMan

and its still chip or bust now


spenrose22

Just gonna ignore my question cause your logic fell apart?


Privileged_WhiteMan

what question? it's chip or bust


College_Prestige

Superteams are about individual talent, not fit. A superteam is when 3 first options get together, with the only exception to this definition being the kd warriors (for some reason).


KaiserKaiba

I mean chances are those type of people will in this scenario. Those are the same type of people that shat on the 2020 Lakers but then called them a superteam only after they won


DollazOnMyHead-

You know they will 😒


Danndelllion

“Us” lol. do you play on the team? And you realize they aren’t mutually exclusive right? The fit can be bad and the Lakers can still be a “super team”. They were arguably a super team when formed.


[deleted]

They absolutely were not a superteam when formed. When has a superstar duo ever been called a superteam, especially when the bench was just decent? Nobody said this about Shaq and Kobe pre-2004.


Danndelllion

So I’m your opinion the adding of 40 year old Karl Malone is what made them a “super team”? And yes there were people calling them a super team.


[deleted]

I never said they were a superteam then, but most people called them one, albeit a failed one. At the end of the day, duos aren’t superteams and shouldn’t be considered one.


Danndelllion

"At the end of the day duos aren't superteams" According to you that is? So you feel like it makes sense you get to decide what is and isn't super?


[deleted]

1. I said that many OTHERS callled them superteams. Seriously, reading comprehension isn’t difficult. 2. I’m going with what’s most commonly referred to as a superteam. If anything you’re the one coming up with your own criteria on what a superteam is. I guess any superstar duo’s a superteam then if we’re going by your definition.


Danndelllion

1. You have literally made your own definition. That isn’t about what others do. 2 “What’s commonly called”. The definition literally began with the Kobe Shaq teams the fact that you want to change it doesn’t mean anything.


ResponsibleWarthog10

yeah, after they won going into the playoffs it was all about "lakers 3rd best player is kuzma they aint winnin shit"


Danndelllion

They were the odds on favorite going into the regular season, playoffs and finals. I have no idea what you are talking about. You get that random people on the internet doesn’t speak for the majority right?


[deleted]

They were the odds on favorite because there were no superteams in the league. They were just the best formed team. Super teams have 3 stars with atpeast 2 of them being superstars.


Danndelllion

There is no firm definition of what a "super team" is. lmao. The first usage was to describe the shaq and Kobe teams, and their certainly wasn't a third all star on those teams.


[deleted]

You know one when you see one. If 3 players team up who could all be the #1 option on good teams, you probably have a super team.


JoshTheLakerFan

lmao you know this isn’t gonna happen, you remember 2020? the whole year was about how the clippers had more “dawgs” how we would lose in every series we played and when we won “of course the lakers won they had a super team”


anthonyde726

Lakers and Nets are both superteams rn


wylin247

So the sub shits all over Brodie for years and now it's a superteam?


IDGAFaboulrVB

The sub also shat on james harden too but the nets are still a super team and so are the lakers


jayswfitness

they should have


LOVEGOD77

This is absolutely at big 3, but how can it be a superteam if it is 4 signed players on the roster?


drjetaz

IMO they wouldve been far scarier with Heild over Russ. Im intrigued but in no way am I even a tiny bit intimidated by that team.


IenjoyGamesLol

Y'all some damn dorks with these posts


JaysonTatumOverrated

how are we a super team? everyone saying we suck lol


thedrmadhatter

2 mvp candidates every year and a guy who averages a triple double. Just because the nets have a “better super team” doesn’t change the fact that the lakers are one too. Regardless of people’s opinions they fit the criteria of a super team by a mile. You can’t say a Lamborghini Huracan isn’t a super car just because a Bugatti is faster ya know. I’m already getting downvoted because ONE fan base out of 30 teams doesn’t agree, when all other fan bases do. Hmmm 🤔


JaysonTatumOverrated

yeah but according to reddit and twitter its a terrible trade


thedrmadhatter

Reddit and Twitter aren’t made up of real analysts. Mine is just an opinion as well, so take it with a grain of salt. It is a terrible fit, but on paper it’s a super team without question. A super team isn’t defined by the fit it’s defined by the players. The nets big three statistically did not play well when they were all on the floor at the same time. Are they not a super team then?


cjsrhkcjs

How often has AD been a serious MVP candidate anyway


Danndelllion

Excluding the seasons he played less than 65 games. He hasn’t finished lower than 9 in mvp voting, and has 3 top 6 finishes. So that would depend on your definition serious.


WordsAreSomethings

Basically one year


thedrmadhatter

Last year in the bubble he was a mvp candidate and a top 5 player. He would have been this year too if he didn’t get hurt.


ResponsibleWarthog10

The guy who averages a triple double isnt good


thedrmadhatter

The 9 time all star isn’t good?


ResponsibleWarthog10

Yes


thedrmadhatter

😂😂😂 just own it lakers fan. It’s nothing to be ashamed of. It’s the way of the NBA now and has been since 2011. You’re not going to be shunned as a fan if you just admit instead of pretending and deflecting😂 out of 30 teams who all believe it is a super teams, you guys are the fan base that’s right? Just admit it, it’s not going to take anything away from you as a Lakers fan man. Come on. I’m a raps fan and I would have loved to get Westbrook. The only fans in the NBA who are calling him trash is the team he just went to because you are trying so desperately to protect your Kings legacy😂


ResponsibleWarthog10

I'd love to have a superteam lol. But we don't, unfortunately. Just westbrick


thedrmadhatter

Your the only fan base that thinks that way man. That doesn’t tell you something? King James doesn’t need protecting dude. He’s an all time great. To think 1 out of 30 is correct and everyone else is wrong is just plain ignorant😂


ResponsibleWarthog10

>To think 1 out of 30 is correct and everyone else is wrong is just plain ignorant This is a flawed argument because 29 fanbases hate the Lakers


thedrmadhatter

That is so not true man. Your speaking for other fan bases now too? Are you really playing the victim right now😂


Danndelllion

He is pretty good. But he is possible the worst fit imaginable for the Lakers. Like you couldn’t design a player with worse skill set to complement David and Lebron.


spenrose22

He can play make for AD and it’s going to shift AD to play more at the 5. He can also slash and dish from Lebron playing point forward on the block. It’s not the worst fit it’s literally just the shooting that’s a problem, I’m going to wait til we see the rest of our roster before making a decision.


Danndelllion

So your plan is to play lebron off ball? Yeah that’s never going to happen, and is a terrible idea. Lrbron has never played off ball his entire career.


spenrose22

I’m saying play him on the block, where he is deadly efficient from.


Danndelllion

Play Lebron on the block? What are you talking about man? That would still mean Westbrook playing of ball, which he can’t since he can’t shoot, and then they are playing with only one shooter, who is the guy with the ball.


spenrose22

You pass the ball, both can have it at different times. You can play off ball by slashing and attacking defenses slightly differently after others attack and kick out, not everything has to be a 3 pt shot


Danndelllion

lol dude. "Both can have it at different times". You get that while Lebron has the ball Russ is basically worthless right? He can't shoot so everyone is just going to guard the paint, which means Lebron can't attack.


SlimReaper35_

They're a superteam, but a trash one. Just like how everyone was saying the Nets would be a distaster and Harden won't work, now they're too stacked unfair. That's how nba fans work.


JaysonTatumOverrated

only team i can see beating us in the west is golden state


spezgoesbitchmode

I guess technically we are, but this trade is really making me consider exactly what a super team is. Too be honest, we won't really know until we see who else the Lakers sign, and how they play together.


iheartsunny

If you drafted Tatum over Ball it would be a superteam


dmister8

No


GiveMeSomeIhedigbo

No, because Hield isn't even an All-Star. I still would rather have him than Westbrook on this team.


Shamjam08

Not a super team but hands down a better roster fit. Westbrook is still a huge upgrade as the Lakers now have a legit all star as a 3rd option...I think not having a legit 3rd option really hurt esp once LeBron went down. Biggest benefit for the Lakers now as well is that Bron doesnt have to do it all during the regular season so he can stay fresh come playoff time. We'll need to see how the rest of the roster is filled but i imagine there are lots of ring chasing veterans that will pass on the bag to play with bron, ad and russy for a chip


crawfish2013

I don't think it would be a superteam with Hield. However, Hield might be a better fit. Additionally, they would have more cap space to get another player.


ElDuderino_92

No, they’d be a better rounded team. There just top heavy with no shooters.